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    #16
    close view of center
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      #17
      reverse
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        #18
        closer view of reverse center
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          #19
          Thank you for looking. If other pictures are neede please let me know. The pieces look better in hand as my photos do not do them justice. THANKS!

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            #20

            That's a great find
            The first one as you know is a Iron Cross 1st class. It is in a
            typical early production case. The next one is the Red Cross
            medal. The last one is a Prussion Red Eagle Order 4th class.
            They are not particularly rare but finding onein it's original case
            is something special. I do not know how or why these were
            handed out as they were not really an award for bravery. Maybe
            someone with a little more experience can fill in this information.

            A very nice collection of cased awards.

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              #21
              You're right about the first two, with the Red Cross Medal being a war-time zinker. The third is the Prussian Red Eagle Order 4th class, with pebbled arms meaning a date of about 1900-10. These were awarded to junior officers for good conduct etc. during peace time, and with swords on the black-white ribbon for war time merit. The war issued crosses are much scarcer than the peace-time issues.

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                #22
                Last edited by DR DOLCH; 11-29-2007, 05:37 PM.

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                  #23
                  VtwinVince,

                  I’m not 100% sure, but I think that they went over to the pebbled arms in 1879 and were awarded in this form through November 1918; and I am also quite sure that they were awarded, without swords of course, to nonmilitary personnel, even foreigners, as well.

                  Regards,

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                    #24
                    the red cross
                    is Prussian 3rd class [there are only 3 classes]
                    1st class is a stick cross
                    2nd class features a red enamel center
                    and will be silver or silver plate,
                    as to value - $30-40, sometimes more
                    the award is common, the case is less so


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                      #25
                      UPDATE TO THIS THREAD!!!!

                      In reviewing this thread that I posted last November I decided to also reveiw the pinned threads of the EK1 dbs so graciously provided by the likes Don Doering and others. Much to my surprise I just learned that the cased EK1 that I showed in this thread does have a maker mark and it is the "FR" mm below the hinge.

                      just wanted to let you know your efforts to provide information is valuable. THANKS!


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                        #26
                        Thanks for the update.
                        pseudo-expert

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