ribbon bar on SS

[McCulloh]

Actually, Glenn J. could probably spot him in a minute or two. I would try the SS area at the Axis History forum. Some of their SS researchers are phenominal. They will know-but try the SS forum here first.

[webr55]

I think this is Eduard Bornhausen:

24.11.1876 Born in Mannheim
1895 entered the Army
1914 Adjutant 41. Inf.-Brig. (holding a Royal Victorian Order 5th cl!)
27.4.1915 Zähringen with Oakleaves as Hauptmann in RIR 254
16.4.1918 Hohenzollern House Order with Swords as Hauptmann
(he also had a Black Wound Badge)
1920 Major aD

1937-1943 Landesgebietsführer/Gaukriegerführer Rhein in the Reichskriegerbund
20.04.1937 SS-Obersturmbannführer,
03.09.1937 SS-Standartenführer
30.01.1938 SS-Oberführer
30.01.1943 Oberst z.V.

no death date


Regards
Chris

[webr55]

... and this may sound incredible, but I think in last place he is really wearing

the Royal Victorian Order



on an


SS uniform!!



(that is definitely not the Bulgarian Commem medal)

I would suggest you post that on GMIC.

[McCulloh]

wow!

wow-just saw this. I think hes' right-looks like RVO all right.
Now THAT's a ribbon bar.

[entasis]

great information. thank all for your time and contributions.

I did post on the Axis History forum but did not get any responses....but I'm glad to see folks still dig around for old threads and resurrect interesting information.

I'm just wondering how a German could have acquired an English award...even in WW1?

[webr55]

His RVO was a pre-WW1 award, which was not uncommon for those days of early globalisation - before 20th century madness set in.

[entasis]

thank you for the clarification. In hindsight it would make sense as Prince Albert was German born, so at least before The Great War there would be no aversion to award to those of the (current) Germanic states.

[McCulloh]

Glenn J. and Mike Miller will have a very full bio on him I am certain.
The RVO is very interesting and the citation will be at Windsor to be sure. They keep all those records there. An award of the monarch personally (it's a "house order").
King Edward awarded them liberally on his tours. I'd bet this man received it from him .
However, in thinking about it a bell went off. The RVO was awarded quite leberally to those who attended Quenn Victoria's funeral in 1901. The award list is available from the National Archives in Kew.

[webr55]

Personally, I liked the Paris brothel theory better!
Bornhausen got his RVO5 sometime between 1903 and 1908, I don't have enough ranklists to verify the exact year. He is listed without it in the 1903 RL (as Lt in IR 28, seniority 27.1.1897), and he is listed with it in the DOA 1908/09 as Oberleutnant in the same regiment.

[McCulloh]

well, that would fit-the RVOs were handed out late in 1901/early 1902-just in time maybe for the 1903 edition. However, he doesn't have it in the 1905 edition (same Rgt.). So we know he got it between mid 1905 and early 1908 (when the ordensalmanach was put into type).

[webr55]

Bornhausen must have got his RVO5 in 1907, maybe early 1908. It appears first in the 1908 RL, where he is listed in IR 28 as Oberlt, seniority 18.5.07.

[Rox69]

Bonjour,

For Bornhausen's Victorian order award see :
http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issu...pplements/4171

Crdl
Thierry

[Valter Gorenc]

Incredible thread and even more incredible research! Well done, gentlemen!

[DonC]

I'll say it again - the WAF is a goldmine!

Don

[gregM]

Very interesting thread.