EK1 1870 Real Deal

[Hagar]

Hi,
i need some expert opinions on this piece is it the real deal and how much would one pay for one of these

thank you in advance
Peter

[Don D.]

I don't believe it is real.

[Marc Garlasco]

not good.
Marc

[franki]

Hello,

to be honest I would pay for such a cross about 20 Euros maximun and
would open a new section in my collection the "FAKE SECTION".

Best Franki

[gregM]

"Muffin Crown" Very bad

[Pendulum]

It's the needle and catch who caught me, haven't ever seen such things befor. Say as the others, no good

[Brian S]

If they were all this easy...

Bad, very very bad.

[Hagar]

Thanx for replies

Hi all,
thanx for your replies I have steered away for this piece
and will keep loooking
regards

[gregM]

Hi all,
thanx for your replies I have steered away for this piece

I would steer away from the rest of his 1870s as well

[Hagar]

I would steer away from the rest of his 1870s as well

exactly

[MrSmith]

I have never seen an original Iron Cross with a pin like that before.

Many years ago there used to be fakes from Poland with pins like that.

[gregM]

You don't even need to look at the back of this cross to tell it is bad.
When ever you see a crown like this one, either 1870 or 1914-----
RUN AWAY, RUN AWAY FAST. It is the textbook example of the "muffin
crown" fake. If you do a search for it you will find a lot of discussion about these over the years. Fake fake fake.