EKI real versus EKI fake

[ADOLPH]

Hi everyone,
I******180;m posting this thread for a friend of mine who made me a question about two EKI******180;s he bought some time ago.
Well, I told him that the one on the left is a fake. The left arm frame is cut, and the right one has a bubble mark. But I******180;m not really sure about the one on the right. Looks funny, the crown and date. Not really sure, the makers mark on the pin confused me. So I decided to ask the experts. What do you think?

Thanks in advance,
Adolph & Mate.

EKI front

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EKI back

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Left one close up.

EKI A1

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Eki A2

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Right one close up.

EKI B1

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Eki B2

[TerryG]

I certainly do not like the one of the left either. Cannot see anything wrong with the other one but let others have their say....

[schnellermeyer]

I also do not like the look of the one on the lrft, the Crown looks to be off centre, but that could just be the pic.

[FW 200]

The bubble on the left one is a centering mark for the attachment ring for an ek2, the frame could have been used for either. The frame style of the left one is like the one I have posted, and I think is for Imperial ek's made during the third reich era. The pin, I don't know for sure. Charlie

[hagwalther]

Hi everyone,
The left arm frame is cut, and the right one has a bubble mark..... What do you think?

Thanks in advance,
Adolph & Mate.

EKI front

The frame used on the left hand example is that of a late 1957 award.

The 'bubble' mark is the guiding used for the ribbon suspension loop of a 1957 EKII.

Both later 1957 EK1's and EKII's used the same frame.

The faker of the left hand example of the 1914 EK1 here has got hold of a late model 1957 frame to build this piece on.

Hope this helps/is of interest.

Regards ...

[Tim Tezer]

I think the one on the right is perfectly original, but the one on the left is absolutely a repro, probably not very old. They may have taken apart a 1957'er, or they may have just made them the same way. The pin is so bad, I don't think you would even see that on a "real" 1957 cross.

Tim

[keifer kahn]

Id Add the "bubble" or location guide is also seen on 1939-45 ek2s.

[ADOLPH]

Thanks guys for your comments. Interesting point about the 1957 award.

Best regards,
Adolph.