Is it possible to narrow down vet by medal bar?

[force136]

Hi Guys

I suppose this question has been asked many times before, however I am just curious to know if anyone has the ability to possibly identify a medal ribbon bar to an individual or unit. Obviously I know it would have to be somewhat unique. I do have a very unique one of German awards to a man that served in the Boxer Rebellion and in Finland during 1918.

Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.

Regards

Ken

[Don D.]

A picture might help.

[force136]

Photo

A picture might help.

Here is a photo of the lot. I just purchased this at an auction as I was always looking for such a group regarding German/Finnish operations in 1918.

Regards

Ken

[VtwinVince]

Interesting NCO's medal bar, with what appears to be a Turkish War Medal on the end. I don't think it's ID'able due to the lack of orders and the fact that the numbers of awards for these medals is high, such as the AEZ and the Finnish medals.

[Don D.]

Enlisted bars are almost impossible to identify.

[force136]

Turkish Medal vs. Long Service?

HI Guys

Thanks for the opinions, much appreciated. So I suppose that a man that was part of a German unit in 1899-1901 would not have remained in the same unit through WWI and in Finland in 1918. I can see that possibly being difficult but if it is possible how many German units that served in China also served in Finland? I guess I will have to research that.

As for the medal on the end being Turkish service, is this possible in that order or is it possibly a long service ribbon? It looks to be more yellow stripes than white but that could be aging?

Regards

Ken

Interesting NCO's medal bar, with what appears to be a Turkish War Medal on the end. I don't think it's ID'able due to the lack of orders and the fact that the numbers of awards for these medals is high, such as the AEZ and the Finnish medals.

[Don D.]

There are many possibilities. The guy could have been in China and then left the service at the end of his time, gotten called back for WW1 and served in a different unit. With the Turkish award I would lean towards a navy guy. What color is the backing cloth?

[force136]

Backing cloth

Hi

Backing cloth is black with a Kiel maker tag sewn in.

Possibly one of the Seebattaillons?

Ken

Interesting NCO's medal bar, with what appears to be a Turkish War Medal on the end. I don't think it's ID'able due to the lack of orders and the fact that the numbers of awards for these medals is high, such as the AEZ and the Finnish medals.

[Don D.]

Or some sailor. Which ships served in both the Baltic and the Mediterranean?

[Gensui]

According to the seller it‘s the bar of
Obermaschinisten Oswald Frentz of SMS Nautilus.

BR, Chris

[force136]

Wooops

Wow, I was not told that originally and now that I was able to go back to the actual catalog you are right. The site I was working from did not translate the German properly. Still that is both interesting and embarrassing. Sorry guys. I still appreciate the help.

Regards

Ken

According to the seller it‘s the bar of
Obermaschinisten Oswald Frentz of SMS Nautilus.

BR, Chris

[Gensui]

Hello Ken,

No problem! The point is, that we need to believe what seller said, because I don't see any possibilities to track-down / proof to Frentz.

Congratulation anyhow- you're the one who overbid me

BR, Chris

[VtwinVince]

That's great news, as ID'd bars from the ranks are not common. I have a similar Navy bar with a Turkish medal, but no ID.

[Dansson]

That's a great bar! Finland 1918 is a really soft spot that I have.