Der Stahlhelm! Bund der Frontsoldaten!

[sir dude]

Wow! impressive collection. 12thPanzer- the photo is amazing.
Adrian.

[12thPanzer]

Not the clearest of photos, but still pretty neat uniform/cap studies. These are men from Landesverband Gau Unterwesser (thanks HPL). The photos were taken in Rotenburg.

[12thPanzer]

Thanks for posting these photos!

Again interesting to see photos with tinnies on caps. During ww1 German soldiers started inofficial to wear commemorative badges and tinnies (like the Austrians) to wear on caps.

Nice photos Stefan! Yep, another display of how lax the regulations were!

Here is another dated 1928. Some JungStahlhelm members. I noticed that they do not wear Sleeve sheilds....was this common for Jung-members??

[12thPanzer]

Some more from LV HANNOVER
(alot of musicians!)

[12thPanzer]

Last one for now, another photo from LV HANNOVER
(note the different tunics on some of the musicians) Also, what is in that mans belt to the right?? Donations tin or something??

[Sergeant 08]

Question! Have you ever seen a photo of a Stahlhelm member with a Wehrwolf skull badge on his tunic?

PS: I ask, because for a time it was allowed that they could be member in both organizations.

[Sergeant 08]

Wehrwolf member with both badges: Wehrwolf and Stahlhelm!

[Sergeant 08]

Badges of both organizations on civil clothes!

[12thPanzer]

WOW. Beautiful photos and badge pin. The Wehr cufftitle is amazing!! I can honestly say that I have not. I will have to look at some of my photos more clearly to see if I may have overlooked the badge/membership pin. Very interesting, as I did not know they could even be a member of both organizations at the same time! Im glad you brought that up.

Figured I would share this one that came in the mail today: Another LV Hannover. Man on left (leader) has a nice medal bar. Also note the "Der Stahlhelm" Flag in the back right!
Another thing to note is the Swallows nests on the man to the left have tassles, showing his authority/leadership rank.

Stefan, I understand that Wehrwolf items are hard to come by. I have never really came across anything related in my time as a collector

[Sergeant 08]

Very interesting, as I did not know they could even be a member of both organizations at the same time! Im glad you brought that up.

Photos can show us so many interesting details!

You must always look carefully and you will find find a lot of answers for questions.

And you will find a lot of new questions....

PS: In the early days Stahlhelm und Wehrwolf worked together side by side. "Der Stahlhelm" tried to absorb the "Wehrwolf", but without a positive result. "Der Wehrwolf" found an own identity and the members were not longer allowed to be member in both organizations later.

[Sergeant 08]

Stahlhelm cap badge Braunschweig!

[Sergeant 08]

Fahnenweihe!

[12thPanzer]

Photos can show us so many interesting details!

You must always look carefully and you will find find a lot of answers for questions.

And you will find a lot of new questions....

PS: In the early days Stahlhelm und Wehrwolf worked together side by side. "Der Stahlhelm" tried to absorb the "Wehrwolf", but without a positive result. "Der Wehrwolf" found an own identity and the members were not longer allowed to be member in both organizations later.

Right, I knew about the early ties/veiws against the weimar etc, but Never knew membership was allowed in both organizations. Very Interesting. I must look into "Der Wehrwolf" more. I have concentrated and studied Der Stahlhelm more only because I can never find any Wehrwolf items or photos! lol I will have to try and find a decent book on the Wehrwolf. I find Wehrwolf items very fascinating when I see them posted from collections (like yours), and would love to learn more!

[Sergeant 08]

Right, I knew about the early ties/veiws against the weimar etc, but Never knew membership was allowed in both organizations. Very Interesting. I must look into "Der Wehrwolf" more. I have concentrated and studied Der Stahlhelm more only because I can never find any Wehrwolf items or photos! lol I will have to try and find a decent book on the Wehrwolf. I find Wehrwolf items very fascinating when I see them posted from collections (like yours), and would love to learn more!

One of the big differences between "Stahlhelm" and "Wehrwolf" was, that the "Stahlhelm" was a mass organization. In the best times the "Wehrwolf" had never had more than 30.000 members. Later they lost a lot of members. And finally it was a part of the "Wehrwolf" ideology to be a elite and no mass organization. That's the reason, why things from the "Wehrwolf" are so rare to find.

[Sergeant 08]

More Stahlhelm!