A thread about the Kampfgruppen

[Dallasfan]

A Baukombinat would have been involved with construction, i.e. building of housing units, etc. Cheers, Torsten.

Hi Torsten

I knew that it had something to do with building houses etc.
But I can't find more information on the net .


Regards , Johan

[torstenbel]

Hi Torsten

I knew that it had something to do with building houses etc.
But I can't find more information on the net .


Regards , Johan

Not all that much more to know really. They would basically have been a general building contractor, employing all trades like plumbers, joiners, carpenters, etc. and they would have done all of the bigger building contracts in and around Halle. Cheers, Torsten.

[oldflagswanted]

more KG unit flags ???

Just saw this one listed online...
TRUPPENFAHNE 275. Kampfgruppen-Zug Wolgast,
Fahnenbänder: "Karl Kießling" (red) 1. Mai 1986
and "7. Okt. 1974" (green), mit Fahnenspitze m. DDR-
Emblem, 380.00 EUR
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... OLDFLAGSWANTED ....
KG flag count now updated to 67, plus others
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11/02/09 List of Known Wreath KG unit flags
(Large wreath, lettering in upper left corner)
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1. #5. Kampfgruppen-Hundertshaft Cottbus, with document (source OFW)
2. #145. Kampfgruppen-Hundertshaft Quedlindburg (*, eBay#1167945870)
3. #262. Kampfgruppen-Zug Strausberg (*Oliver book)
4. #34. Kampfgruppen-Zug (mot.) Strausberg (*Oliver Book)
5. (No#) Kampfgruppen-Zug Forst (*= photo verified)
6. #?8. Kampfgruppen-Zug Teterow (*)
7. (No#) Kampfgruppen-Zug Neuruppen (*)
8. #? Kampfgruppen-Bataillonshaft ?Niberode (*Oliver Book, pg 93) <-- ???
9. #64. Kampfgruppen-Zug Freital (*)
10. #206. Kampfgruppen-Zug Bautzen (*, & formerly DHH)
11. #1. Kampfgruppen-Bataillon (mot.) Berlin (*1983-KG books)
12. #107. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft Dresden (source DHH)
13. #155. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft Dresden (source DHH)
14. #203. Kampfgruppen-Zug Bautzen (source DHH)
15. #62. Kampfgruppen-Zug ?location? (*eBay #6132614203 Nov04)
16. #? Kampfgruppen-? ?location? (was on W-A Forum e-stand) <--- ???
17. #154 Kampfgruppen-Hundrertschaft Bautzen (*online auction)
.....(with Kurt Pchalek red streamer & 7Oct1975 Green streamer)
18. #26. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft (mot.) Rathenow, (*WA-Forum)
.....(with Friedrich Engels 7 Oct 78 red streamer, & 7 Oct 74 Green).
19. #22. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft (mot.) Wolgast, (*WA-Forum)
…...(with 66/68,80/82/85 red streamer, & 1 Mai. 1974 Green).
20. #50. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft (mot.) Berlin-Mitte, (*WA-Forum)
21. #100. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft Berlin-Mitte, (*WA-Forum)
22. #12. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft Berlin -Treptow, (*WA-Forum)
23. #238. Kampfgruppen-Zug Zossen, (*WA-Forum)
24. #IV. Kampfgruppen-Battalion (mot.) Zossen, (*WA-Forum)
.....(with 7. Oktober 1975 green streamer)
25. #220. Kampfgruppen-Zug Strasburg, (*WA-Forum)
26. #209. Kampfgruppen-Zug Neubrandenburg, (*Gz-Forum)
.....(with 07.10.1983 red streamer)
27. (No#) Kampfgruppen-Hunderschaft Neubrandenburg, (*Gz-Forum)
.....(with 07.10.1973 red streamer)
28. #219. Kampfgruppen-Zug Strasburg, (*Gz-Forum)
29. #223. Kampfgruppen-Zug Rostock, (*Gz-Forum)
30. #192. Kampfgruppen-Batterie (Flak) Rostock, (*WA-Forum)
31. (No#?) Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft Zittau, document only (")
32. #225. Kampfgruppen-Zug Reichenbach, (*WAF GJ via eBay)
33. (No#) Kampfgruppen-Hunderschaft Reichenbach, (*WAF " )
34. #223 Kampfgruppen-Zug Reichenbach, (*eBay 299 Euros, OFW)
35. #143. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft Freiberg, (*source GJ)
.....(with 7.Okt1973 green, 978 BE red, BE66/68 red, Robert
.....Siewert 1.Mai 1985 red streamer)
36. #151. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft Bernau, (*CZ Auction 450 Euros)
37. (No#) Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft (mot) Forst (*& doc., 800 Euros)
38. (No#) Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft (mot) Cotbus (* 650 Euros)
39. II. Kampfgruppen-Battaillon (mot) Nordhausen, 7.Okt74 green, *1KE
40. (No#) Kampfgruppen-Zug Herzberg, 01.05.80 red+top,(*1000 Euros)
.....Source list #39/40 SG Auction Italy, as cited on WAF.
41. 156. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft Rostock, ebay #320325417163*
42. 421. Kampfgruppen-Zug Schwerin, "170287455472*, 1Mai74 green
.....streamer and Walter Griesbach Honor named 7Oct77 red streamer.
43. 4. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft (mot.) Berlin-Prenzlauerberg+doc*J-D
44. 203. Kampfgruppen-Zug Berlin-Prenzlauerberg, Hans Janocha red*"
45. (No#) Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft (mot.) Berlin-Prenzlauerberg*"
46. 108. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft Berlin-Prenzlauerberg, *Johan-D
47. 202. Kampfgruppen-Zug Berlin-Prenzlauerberg, *Johan-Dallasfan
48. 274. Kampfgruppen-Zug Wolgast, BE 85/87, Green 1Mai74, *"(J-D)
49. 205. Kampfgruppen-Zug Calau, Red-BE, Green 1Mai75, *Johan-D
50. 420. Kampfgruppen-Zug Gustrow, heavy cotton as all listed above.
51. 229. Kampfgruppen-Zug Oranienburg, *J-D
52. 160. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft Oranienburg, *J-D
53. II. Kampfgruppen-Bataillon (mot.) Oranienburg, *J-D
54. (No#) Kampfgruppen-Zug Perleberg, BE-66/70/82, Bruno Schramm,
.......& red 1Mai72 streamer + red cords, ebay 193 Euros, *GJ
55. (No#) Kampfgruppen-Zug Hagenow, BE-72/76/78/80/82 + cords, "
56. 238. Kampfgruppen-Zug Weisswasser, sold for 170 Euros, *GJ.
57. 9. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft (mot.) Rostock, 168 Euros, *GJ.
58. 119. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft Reichenbach, *eBay 220354748711
.......with pole top and trooping harness. 369 Euros min start bid.
59. 169. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft Rugen, *eBay 300304111842
......with top, 7.Okt74 and other streamers, and 5 documents... *GJ
59a Kampfgruppenfahne an den 254. Kampfgruppenzug, 1. Mai 1976
59b Kampfgruppenfahne an den 276. Kampfgruppenzug, 07.10.1989
59c Kampfgruppenzug wird der Ehrenname "Kurt Bürger", unit #276
59d Kampfgruppenfahne an den 15. Kampfgruppenzug
59e Kampfgruppenfahne an die 169. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft
60. 21. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft (mot.) Karl-Marx-Stadt, *J-D
60b KDADDDP title flag in unit # large wreath pole slip pattern, *J-D
61. 270. Kampfgruppen-Zug Niesky, old catalog sale entry, *J-D
62. 412. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft Deutsche Reichbann Fahr-
......komplex Mukran, old catalog sale entry, *J-D, IMO best so far!
63. 280. Kampfgruppen-Zug Riesa, *WAF member GD
64. 9. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft (mot.) Rostock, "
65. 264. Kampfgruppen-Zug Dresden, "
66. 156. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft Neubrandenburg, Horst Jonas, "
67. 275. Kampfgruppen-Zug Wolgast, Fahnenbänder: "Karl Kießling
dated 1. Mai 1986" (red) u. "7. Okt. 1974" (green), Berlin Auctionhaus
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Question: 51-53 same unit growing larger, or separate at same time?
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***(KG Honor flag pattern, with pole loops and silken field material)***
H1. 4. Kampfgruppen-Hundertschaft (mot) Max Fritch, +doc, *J-D
......small wreath, above and below large arc lettering.
H2. Kampfgruppen-Bataillon (mot) Erich Weinert, Johan-Dallasfan, WAF
......large wreath, above and below large arc lettering.
H3. 1.HS. Kirschau (corner square 2 sides), loops, no wreath, cotton*DHH
H4. (No#) Walter Ulbricht - Babelsberg, loops, no w", arc lettered, *DHH
H5. (No#) Kampfgruppen-Bataillon (mot.) Bruno Kuhn, loops, *J-D,
......small wreath, above and below large arc lettering. (H6 also *J-D)
H6. 1 Selbstandiger Zug Bahnbetriebswerk Schwerin, loops, no wreath
H7. VEB Kreidewerke Rugen Klementelvitz (Rugen)
H8. Hundertschaft MTS-Bereich Merzdorf, *GD
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Interesting to note repeat 223 unit numbers, wonder why ???
Same question for repeat 238 unit numbers, above list #23 & #56.
Also it would be interesting to find a list of KG unit Honor names.
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Per 1998 KG unit Map 2021 possible total; 55 Bn, 526 HS, 1440 Zug.
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V-1. Volkspolize-Kreisamt Herzberg, complete on original pole, *OFW
V-2. Volkspolize-Kreisamt Jessen, with documents, top+green-s,*GJ
V-3. Volkspolize-Kreisamt Weiss Wasser, +green streamer & cords, <!-- / message --><!-- edit note --><!-- / message -->

[torstenbel]

Don't know if it has been shown here already or not, but this the Handbuch militaerisches Grundwissen for the Kampfgruppen. Cheers, Torsten.

[Viktor]

Don't know if it has been shown here already or not, but this the Handbuch militaerisches Grundwissen for the Kampfgruppen. Cheers, Torsten.

Genosse torstenbel, You interest me strangely.... could you post Images of any sections on Scales of Issue, Equipment, Pictures etc....?....

Many Thanks...

[torstenbel]

Genosse torstenbel, You interest me strangely.... could you post Images of any sections on Scales of Issue, Equipment, Pictures etc....?....

Many Thanks...

I gladly oblige ...

[torstenbel]

sample 2

[torstenbel]

sample 3

[torstenbel]

sample 4

[torstenbel]

sample 5 and last ... probably enough samples?

btw, this particular books is the first edition printing (no year of publication, but looks like early 1970s). Cheers, Torsten.

[Viktor]

Thank you Genosse torstenbel,

Moscow Centre has also Noted your Rezidency's Manicurist is conforming to the Nail maintenance Quota.

[torstenbel]

Thank you Genosse torstenbel,

Moscow Centre has also Noted your Rezidency's Manicurist is conforming to the Nail maintenance Quota.

yes, I have a couple of girls coming round twice a week to look at my nails ... Cheers, Torsten.

[BedsnHerts]

I have a question about KdA belts and belt order. Are there any good reference pics around online?

[iannima]

I have a question about KdA belts and belt order. Are there any good reference pics around online?

http://mundosgm.com/smf/index.php?PH...&topic=5097.15

[Kozlov]

There are some great photos in that thread... including lots of ones of the KdA wearing civvie shirts and jumpers. I seem to remember someone on here criticising me for doing that before... well, if that person or persons is reading this, check out the Documentary of Truth...