I'm sitting here on the Kassel Show and had a visit from the Criminal Police, complaining that my FDJ Flag on Display wasn't covered as it is a restricted Organisation in Western Germany since 195 and something and now for whole Germany like all the Nazi Organisations. OK I understand that you have to cover Swastikas but FDJ? I don't know. So better to do this before I have to pay a Penalty for not to do it.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_German_Youth
Banned since 1951 as a counter-constiutional Organisation.
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Originally posted by uscob View Posthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_German_Youth
Banned since 1951 as a counter-constiutional Organisation.
The fact that this was done in 1951 in the BRD makes me even more suspicious that it would not withstand a coherent legal challenge in a unified Germany where even the highest levels of state are occupied by people who grew up in FDJ.
FDJ was, and is, a legitimate anti-fascist organisation, and has been for a very long time.
Timo
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Well, the situation with the FDJ in Germany is rather strange if you ask me. Officially they are illegal, but the FDJ argues it is legal and uses an agreement from 1990 as it's basis, as seen in the wikipedia article. So it operates openly yet it's technically illegal.
I don't see why the flag should be covered up either. I remember watching a video of FDJ members in modern Germany 'parading' (there were less than 15 of them) through Berlin along the old route of the Berlin Wall with FDJ flags and banners (even one in a helmet). And this was a news report video.
Yet these police are telling you to cover up your example. Don't know what to make of it.
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Just did a bit of extra research. Apparently the FDJ are having the same problem as you had. On their website's front page currently there is a short post of the police confiscating a FDJ flag. Might be interesting to check out, though their one sided viewpoints get rather strong as you go through their site.
http://www.fdj.de/FDJ_Homepage_08/Se...tartseite.html
From their website I can also see why the German government might be doing this, judging from some of the instances in the past where the FDJ demonstrated.Last edited by Johelmet; 11-29-2012, 12:54 PM.
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Originally posted by uscob View PostI'm sitting here on the Kassel Show and had a visit from the Criminal Police, complaining that my FDJ Flag on Display wasn't covered as it is a restricted Organisation in Western Germany since 195 and something and now for whole Germany like all the Nazi Organisations. OK I understand that you have to cover Swastikas but FDJ? I don't know. So better to do this before I have to pay a Penalty for not to do it.
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More and more I am coming to believe that the current government is in some ways terrified of the DDR
It as if they quake at the possibility that many citizens will come to the consider the possibility that a "Democratic Republic", without the influence of the Russians, may be a better quality of life.
Perhaps substantial and true democratic reform, would have been the better solution than unification.
Timo
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Originally posted by TimoJ View Post
Perhaps substantial and true democratic reform, would have been the better solution than unification.
Timo
PS: BTW, I was one of the 10% then ... and this was also the last election that I ever voted in ...Last edited by torstenbel; 11-30-2012, 03:33 AM.
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