Very nice Andreas, where did you find all these amazing pictures ?
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No Problem.Originally posted by 81REDSTAR
Any Idea who this Officer/General is??
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Thanks FrancoisOriginally posted by Garulfo
..ebay,flea markets,trades etc.
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Hi Thalmannpionier!Thanks for your effort.Originally posted by Thälmannpionier
The general in the photo is from DPRK[Democratic people's republic of korea],his name is 吴振宇(오진우),english translation is Woo chen yoo[rough].His rank in the photo looks like General-col.But i can not see the collar tabs which represent the rank clearly.And the gold cord on his cap shos that he is a general or above.He has the badge of Kim ilsong on his right chest.His uniform is daily uniform of Korean people's army.
Army general of korean people's army.Woo chen yoo.吴振宇(오진우)
He joined the anti-japanese invasion army in northeast china at 1933.He joined chinese communist party at 1937.7.Later at 1945,he changed his belongship to korean worker's party. He was promoted to General-Lt at 1958.3.And he became the commander of Korean people's army 1st corp at 1959.10.He was the vice minister of people's security ministry from 1963-1967 and promoted to army general at 1964.He was the minister of korean people's army general political headquater from 1967.4-1969.2.He was awarded the title of hero of DPRK at 1968.At december of same year,he became the central chairman of korean worker's party[chosun rodong dang].He became both of the vice minister of people's security ministry and Chief of general staff of Korean people's army.Since 1970.7,he became a member of Korean worker's party central military committe.And had another job in row as Vice-minister of People's commitee National Defense Commission of DPRK.He was promoted to vice marshal at 1985.4,and awarded the order of Kim ilsong,which is the highest national award in DPRK,at 1987.3.He was promoted to the marshal of DPRK at 1992,he was awarded the rank of marshal at the ceremony of 60th anniversary of foundation of the Korean people's army which took place in 1992.At that time he is minister of korean people's army general political headquater and the miniter of people's armed ministry,equivelant to Ministry of defence and he had this job from 1976.Also he inspected the troops in the parade after the ceremony.He was born at 1917 and died at 1995.02.25.
Vice-marshal of Korean people's army.吴振宇(오진우)
The general stands behind him looks very firmiliar,but i can only see his side face.Do you have the date of the photo taken?And other photo of NVA meeting with foreign officers and generals from DPRk or other countrys?
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81redstarLast edited by 81REDSTAR; 05-19-2006, 04:44 PM.Comment
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Thanks for the great Info 81Redstar
I will write that Info on the back of the photo.
I'm afraid,no other Photos with foreign Army Generals in my Collection.
But I will have a look again.
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Hi Andreas!If i am not wrong,the general stands behind Woo chen yoo might be Cho Myong-rok[조명록],he is the First Vice-Chairman National Defense Commission of DPRK and he is the minister of korean people's army general political headquater.His rank is vice marshal.
He was born at 1930.He was in the korean people's army air force.And he was promoted to the commander of air defence corps at 1975[general-Lt or general-col].And his rank promoted to army general at 1992.4.in the same ceremony as Woo chen yoo.Later he was promoted to vice marshal at 1995.10.And he became the First Vice-Chairman of National Defense Commission of DPRK at 1998,9.
His rank in the photo looks like general-Lt.
Is that photo taken in 1970s?
Korean people's army airforce General-col.Cho Myong-rok.
This photo is vice marshal Cho Myong-rok.
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Yes,the Photos are in the Timeframe of early to late 70`s.
Amazing Info.Thanks again
Don't get me wrong but I have a very hard Time to see differences in Asian Faces.It still is a riddle for me how, for Example in China,the Police can find Murders or Bank Robbers,as there are not that many differences in the apperiance of the Face and so on.Millions of people in China are small,thin,black hair etc. How do they manage to sort out the good from the bad?It is a serious Question I would really like to know.
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Hello!Andreas!
According to my own experience,to differenciate differenct person's face,i will try to recognize their features like nose,eye or shape of the face and hair style,eye brow,etc.The police have more skills to do this i assume.And they are trained to do that in the police academy.
However,i got misidentifying mistakes sometimes.I mixed up nationalities with some european countrys and australian.I always ask for where are they come from.Comment
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quite impressive to see for how much some early NVA Photos getting sold these days.
..btw..that is a very nice Photo but to expensive for me.
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http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...e=STRK:MEDW:ITComment
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Pics of Willi Stoph (btw did someone have pics of him in his Wehrmacht uniform?)
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Vincenz Muller Wehrmacht/kvp/NVA funeral pics
The previous funeral pictures look to be of a General, maybe Vincenz Muller? He was said to have committed suicide in the late 1950s by jumping out of a window. He served as commander of Minsk in 1944, before surrendering to the Soviets. (I talked to a vet on the phone who was there, and also was taken POW by the Soviets. He was a Captain, did not have many kind words for Vincenz Muller or his leadership.) Anyway, he had a contract or some sort of deal with the Soviets to train the KVP/NVA on his release from the Soviet prisoner of war camp, or so the story was told to myself. Does any NVA Vet out there know or heard of him? Or maybe another commander General Arno Von Lenski, who was captured at Stalingrad, and returned to serve in the NVA? Maybe it was his funeral?
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What was the reason to Muller suicide? I have heard of him, he was one of the seven RK holder who served in the NVA.Originally posted by Tom KThe previous funeral pictures look to be of a General, maybe Vincenz Muller? He was said to have committed suicide in the late 1950s by jumping out of a window. He served as commander of Minsk in 1944, before surrendering to the Soviets. (I talked to a vet on the phone who was there, and also was taken POW by the Soviets. He was a Captain, did not have many kind words for Vincenz Muller or his leadership.) Anyway, he had a contract or some sort of deal with the Soviets to train the KVP/NVA on his release from the Soviet prisoner of war camp, or so the story was told to myself. Does any NVA Vet out there know or heard of him? Or maybe another commander General Arno Von Lenski, who was captured at Stalingrad, and returned to serve in the NVA? Maybe it was his funeral?
Here a pic of him in his NVA uniform
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Lieutenant General Vincenz M******252;ller died in 1961. An interesting side note is that in the late 1940's early 50s the US Army Counter Intelligence Corps (CIC) was working to get Vincenz M******252;ller to defect from East Germany. This was followed later by Gehlen Organization (West German Intel) efforts to recruit M******252;ller.Comment
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81redstar.
The correct name of the marshal of people's army of Korea(North),
whom you mentioned, is
O Jin Woo. Wu chen yoo is chinese pronounciation. However, the air marshal Cho Myong Rok's name is correct.
Andreas.
The problem of 'face identification' is simply because you're not familiar with the asian faces. Asians who have not seen Europeans have similar troubles when they need to identify European faces at first glance.
NaktaLast edited by nakta; 08-06-2006, 02:46 AM.Comment
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nakta.
The name Woo chen yoo is a rough english prounication i made base on the korean prounication of.오진우. The chinese prounication would be wuzhenyu.吴振宇. And the rank of air marshal does not exsit in the DPRK military ranking system.Comment
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