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    #16
    Originally posted by Greg Collins View Post
    It really depends on who made the fake and how the fake was made. Those that are made from sand casting are fairly easily spotted; the better fakes are usually spotted in the enamel- there are both red and clear enamels on this medal. Because of the going price (I have seen it sold for anywhere from $380 to upwards of $700), it is a fairly heavily faked award. I would suggest that you run it by the experts at the Soviet Awards Page Forum- they may come off as being hyper-critical, but a couple of these guys really know their stuff. If you care to post an image of the medal in question- not the ribbon part, but a good closeup of the medal itself- front, back, edge, mounting ring, and a close-up of the shield itself, I can give you a preliminary evaluation.
    Hello Greg,just got one.It was put on ebay as a fake.But!
    This one I bought looks to good as a fake and it seems to be an used one.I collected some pics from this medal,it doesn't look like the fakes I know.
    I don't know now how many kinds off fakes there are??
    I can't put pics on the forum,can anyone do it for me. So the Soviet collectors can give there opinion??

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      #17
      Originally posted by Stefas View Post
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      I don't know now how many kinds off fakes there are??
      I can't put pics on the forum,can anyone do it for me. So the Soviet collectors can give there opinion??
      Why would you care about how many kinds of fakes are out there? Just make sure yours is not one of them. For that you compare it with ONE original like the one Darrell posted. I am sending you my e-mail address, I should be able to post pics for you.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Albert View Post
        Why would you care about how many kinds of fakes are out there? Just make sure yours is not one of them. For that you compare it with ONE original like the one Darrell posted. I am sending you my e-mail address, I should be able to post pics for you.
        Thanks Albert,the pics are coming.Youre right about fakes,but if I know where I can find the fake details in a medal.Its easier to buy ore not.
        Pics on auctions ore ebay aren't that good sometimes.

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          #19
          1. pic of Stefas' medal:
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Albert View Post
                  4. pic of Stefas' medal:
                  Thanks Albert,what do you think about this medal???

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Stefas View Post
                    Thanks Albert,what do you think about this medal???
                    I think it is, unfortunately, a copy. Too keep things simple, compare the letter "Ж" on your medal with one on an original piece:
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Albert View Post
                      I think it is, unfortunately, a copy. Too keep things simple, compare the letter "Ж" on your medal with one on an original piece:
                      you have eagle eyes Albert.I was just concentrating on the ring,star and back.
                      Unbelieveble what a nice used look it got.Are there difference types off this model?? ore just one that never changed?

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Stefas View Post
                        you have eagle eyes Albert.I was just concentrating on the ring,star and back.
                        Unbelieveble what a nice used look it got.Are there difference types off this model?? ore just one that never changed?
                        Only one type as far as tooling goes.

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                          #27
                          I agree with Albert...the medal is a reproduction.
                          Somebody, after all, had to make a start. What we wrote and said is also believed by many others. They just don't dare express themselves as we did. Quote - Sophie Scholl - White Rose resistance group

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Darrell View Post
                            Wow ... is this what these are worth today? I gave up Soviet medals a few years ago, but picked this one up then for about $150
                            I stopped collecting Soviet Medals about 10 years ago. I was able to get one of these for 90 dollars. I just wish I would have picked up more 20 dollar ORB and 5 dollar ORSs!

                            I am thankfull that I kept my Soviet Collection. There is no way I would ever be able to afford this stuff at today's prices.

                            The irony is that I collected Soviet Awards when I was at my lowest paygrade. I am now almost to the top of the food chain and cannot even consider buying any additional quality items!

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