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    #46
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      #47
      The last one is a early visor cap but for a General of the air force.
      The name of the general is known. He was a DKiG owner.

      Greetings,
      Stefan
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        #48
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          #49
          Now I need a Viertaschenrock or Zweitaschenrock for my LW-General

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            #50
            Very nice uniforms, thanks for sharing!

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              #51
              My BGS-Uniform
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                #52
                Affenjacke for an Oberfeldwebel, dated 1956.
                The airbone award was attached by me.

                183/104 is the biggest size I saw by an Affenjacke so far.

                It would be very interesting for me if someone has an Affenjacke with a bigger size.
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                  #53
                  Nice 1960s BGS uniform. Is it dated?

                  Just small correction: belt is reversed, should be worn with pointed end on left side of wearer.

                  Regards
                  Klaus

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                    #54
                    Hello Klaus,

                    thanks for the correction. Learning never stops.

                    The jacket is dated 10/62. I found another stamp in the jacket but I don´t know what "Ii" means.

                    The marksmanship lanyard was attached with a early Bundeswehr Sanella badge with crossed rifles. But not by me....
                    I got the Uniform of a ex BGS member who served in the 1960s.

                    Regards,
                    Stefan
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                      #55
                      More pics of the marksman lanyard and the eagle.
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                        #56
                        It is early example of the Dienstrock "2nd model" (introduced 1960). The stamp is actually "I." (ink smeared during stamping on yours) but have not found it out what means, it is also in earlier BGS uniforms. I have also tunic with "II." stamp. Possibly depot or factory control stamp?

                        Regards
                        Klaus

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                          #57
                          Thanks for the explanation, Klaus!

                          Regards,
                          Stefan

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                            #58
                            More great uniforms!!

                            I have been under the assumption that the I and II stamps were marks of the GSG the uniform was assigned to.

                            Whatever the ink stamp is, it was most likely applied after manufacture as some sort of control measure.

                            Steve

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by Collectinsteve View Post
                              More great uniforms!!

                              I have been under the assumption that the I and II stamps were marks of the GSG the uniform was assigned to.
                              these are different stamp and marked with GSG and 1,2,etc. They are in addition to the I or II stamps.

                              Regards
                              Klaus
                              Last edited by Klaus1989; 04-21-2015, 05:33 PM.

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                                #60
                                Ah. And now that I think about it, these are most likely battalion designations. Germans traditionally use Roman numerals for battalion (Abteilung). Checking over some source materials I see that is also the case with BGS. Not surprisingly there are also three Grenzschutzabteilungen per Grenzschutzgruppe. Companies are called Hundertschaft (as there is about 100 men in a company, that makes sense) and are sequentially numbered across the three battalions as per traditional German designations. Seems that they have four companies per battalion, but I don't know if the 4th is a "weapons company" or if they had four identical Hunderschaft with integrated heavy weapons.

                                Following traditional German designations, and the source I checked, an example looks like this:

                                GSA II/6 = 2nd battalion of group 6 (GSA II, GSG 6)

                                I am guessing a full designation down to Hunderschaft would be:

                                2. Hu, GSG II/6, GSK Nord = 2nd company, 2nd battalion of group 6, north command

                                Another German traditional designation is a unique 3 digit number for each Hundertschaft. 506 = 5. Hu, GSG II/6 and 106 = 1. HU, GSG II/6


                                Since battalions probably had their own dedicated barracks and supply stocks back then my vote is for Grenzschutzabteilung designation

                                http://www.beim-alten-bgs.de/Zu_den_...denseiten.html

                                Steve

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