Early ZB and THW items

[Gordon Craig]

dress tunic THW made by JOBA.

chiffonnier,

I've been looking for one of these tunics, and a pair of pants, for some time without any luck. A belt like the one you pictured would also be something I would like to add to my collection.
Something I have acquired since our last visit to this thread is a small cap badge like that shown in post 79. All I need now are some hats like those!
The cap badge is 23 mm in diametre and has a two pronged pin back.
There are no maker marks on the cap badge.

Regards,

Gordon

[chiffonnier]

cold weather cap

I only have one of the hats in post 79 but with a '63 dated sweat shield.
never owned one of those small cap badges.

[chiffonnier]

THW field cap

here an example of an early cotton field cap.
no markings visible.
as you see well worn and faded .

[chiffonnier]

THW side cap

navy blue sidecap with unusual markings.
made in berlin at the prinzenallee.
don't know if the IX61 code stands for the date or some aerial code.
the large bakelite tool is for handling in power supply units and is safe to 20000 volts.

[Gordon Craig]

chiffonnier,

Looks like I should have been more specific about which caps I was refering to in post #79. The cap you have is not worn with a cap badge. Just the way it is worn in your pphoto. The cap the small badge is worn on is this one. Sorry for creating some confusion.

Regards,

Gordon

[Gordon Craig]

navy blue sidecap with unusual markings.
made in berlin at the prinzenallee.
don't know if the IX61 code stands for the date or some aerial code.
the large bakelite tool is for handling in power supply units and is safe to 20000 volts.

chiffonier,

The IX/61 probsbly means that the cap was made is September of 1961.
One of my side caps is dated XII/1968.

Regards,

Gordon

[chiffonnier]

re

don't matter but I'll keep my eyes open for one or more for you.
can't promise anything.
all the best.
kees

[chiffonnier]

chiffonier,

The IX/61 probsbly means that the cap was made is September of 1961.
One of my side caps is dated XII/1968.

Regards,

Gordon

gordon,do you know where the LS stands for as well?
regards
kees

[Gordon Craig]

kees,

I am not sure what the LS stands for. Possibly LSHD (Luftschutzhilfsdienst, Air Protection Help Service)?

Regards,

Gordon

[chiffonnier]

ok thanks gordon.
I have some ww2 luftschutz clothing wich are also marked LS.
there is a large luftwaffe eagle between the letters however but there must be a connection.
here is an example of the very first generation plastic schutzhelm.
I've always been told they are pretty rare,correct me if thats not the case.
no markings,only for the size;56.
I assume it's material is duraplast where also the trabant was made of.

[uscob]

chiffonier,

The IX/61 probsbly means that the cap was made is September of 1961.
One of my side caps is dated XII/1968.

Regards,

Gordon

Correct, the Roman Numeral is the Month. As we also had THW in Berlin, they produced them also here. Normally it wasn't allowed to produce for Federal Agencies to the Allied Laws, but I saw several Items, made in Berlin for Western Germany.

[uscob]

ok thanks gordon.
I have some ww2 luftschutz clothing wich are also marked LS.
there is a large luftwaffe eagle between the letters however but there must be a connection.
here is an example of the very first generation plastic schutzhelm.
I've always been told they are pretty rare,correct me if thats not the case.
no markings,only for the size;56.
I assume it's material is duraplast where also the trabant was made of.

You're right, it is rare, but it looks like a DDR one to me. By the inside, but I was told many Years ago, that they also were exported to the West. Are there any Stamps inside? The next Generation is quite common in the WWII LS Style. These came with Leather, Webbing and clear or white Plastic Straps. I have a load of them here in my storage. An old offer is still valid, the first 10 Members who visit me in my storage, get a used one for free. 3 are gone, so still 7 there. OK, one is on hold until the (maybe) new owner comes to Berlin.

[uscob]

kees,

I am not sure what the LS stands for. Possibly LSHD (Luftschutzhilfsdienst, Air Protection Help Service)?

Regards,

Gordon

Gordon, I know it as Luftschutz.

[uscob]

navy blue sidecap with unusual markings.
made in berlin at the prinzenallee.
don't know if the IX61 code stands for the date or some aerial code.
the large bakelite tool is for handling in power supply units and is safe to 20000 volts.

The Tool is for Pulling out large Fuse Elements in Power Stations, so Called "Übergabestationen" (Transmission Stations). We had some of them at the McNair Barracks Stations, but one night, somebody stole all of them.

[chiffonnier]

inner markings

nico;the only markings inside are the following.
same stamp twice in different light.
perhaps you recognise the style as east or west.
regards,
kees