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      Cdn Wings

      Hi Tino

      Well these are a bit of a mystery . They are of a wartime style that actually originated in 1942 however it is how they are made that is confusing. I have yet to see an example like this from a veteran. Either wartime or post war. What bothers me is the fact that they are made with a crushed felt backing and have very luminescent thread. They almost appear to be US made. In fact all of these I have seen have come from the US.

      So there are three possibilities, (a) they are recent ( last ten years ) reproductions ( there is also an odd Pegasus made in a similar way ) (b) they were a lot made in the USA when the Bn was at Benning. They had a shortage of wings in early 1942. ( however if the pegasus was made at the same time this would put the date much later at the end of the war ) (c) The wing is on black so whether made in US or Canada the stock may have been turned down. Later wings on black were excepted by the Bn in the UK. This may explain why all found are in new condition? These wings are found in different sizes.

      There are examples that are almost identical that were worn during the war. I have seen tons from vets however these have the typical black cotton backing - not that white US looking stuff. Some mid war Cdn wings of a different style and the Airborne Canada shoulder titles had a white backing however these are not as common and the backing is a finer material.

      sorry I could not be more definate for you,

      Ken


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        Hi Ken,
        Thanks for the detailed possibilities, it's save to rule out the first option as the wings came from a WWII US officer that passed away in the sixties, his stuff was untouched untill recently.
        I tried to capture the funny lustre on the wings with a better picture in daylight, the wings have a pearl pinkish tinge to them.
        It could very well be one of the other possibilities that you stated, as far as I know he had no connections with the Canadian Army and was never stationed overseas.
        Interesting!

        Thanks,
        Tino
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          I managed to get this Border Regiment shoulder title yesterday.

          Cheers, Luc

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              Ah you are the Lucky One, i wonder were the title went from TT Forum.

              Jeroen

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                Yep, it was me.

                Luc

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                  Hi Luc , sorry ,but are u sure this title is ok ? it may be coz its mint /un used but i have concerns about it ,regards ,Michael.

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                    Sorry but I have to agree with Michael. It is the same as those currently being sold at Militaria Fairs in England, France and Belguim, possibly by the same dealer.

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                      The only other thing I can think of is the fact that there was wartime and postwar cooperation between the two countries regarding airborne and air transportability training. I have seen US personel that were involved wearing Cdn wings. However they had to have been jumpers?

                      The colour of the wings is correct. They were supposed to be oyster coloured while the parachute was white. In Canada the background colour was supposed to be rifle green.

                      Ken

                      Originally posted by Tino View Post
                      Hi Ken,
                      Thanks for the detailed possibilities, it's save to rule out the first option as the wings came from a WWII US officer that passed away in the sixties, his stuff was untouched untill recently.
                      I tried to capture the funny lustre on the wings with a better picture in daylight, the wings have a pearl pinkish tinge to them.
                      It could very well be one of the other possibilities that you stated, as far as I know he had no connections with the Canadian Army and was never stationed overseas.
                      Interesting!

                      Thanks,
                      Tino

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                        Marc, Michael, that is not good news. I thought it was identical to the one Guy showed on page 17 of this thread? Please let me know what your concerns are exactly, I will contact the previous owner if necessary.

                        Luc


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                          For a WWII version the colour of thread on the green portion should be yellow, the letters are not correct and they are joined together. Although the badge is two parts the word BORDER goes through both.

                          The thread colour on the badges produced in and post 1955 is green to match (there are two versions with a different shade of green) and the badge is in two parts.

                          The badge also matches those reproductions I have seen for sale at a number of Militaria Fairs.

                          If I am wrong so be it.

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                            Thanks Ken
                            Originally posted by force136 View Post
                            The only other thing I can think of is the fact that there was wartime and postwar cooperation between the two countries regarding airborne and air transportability training. I have seen US personel that were involved wearing Cdn wings. However they had to have been jumpers?

                            The colour of the wings is correct. They were supposed to be oyster coloured while the parachute was white. In Canada the background colour was supposed to be rifle green.

                            Ken

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                              Marc,
                              So you say I have from top to bottom a regular infantry style title, a WW2 set of titles, a repro and a post-war title?

                              Luc

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