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    #76
    Those who have not signed yet might want to express their support - 47 days left to do so.

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      #77
      Originally posted by Gran Sasso View Post
      We need your help to safe a piece of history:

      https://www.openpetition.de/petition...mals-auf-kreta
      I signed it. I do not know German but I entered my email, country, postal code, street name. I hope that works.

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        #78
        Originally posted by Gary Jucha View Post
        Why should other countries other than Germany look after Nazi Monuments.

        Doe's not Germany have it's own war grave/monument commission.

        Britain pays and looks after her's on foreign soil as best as possible !

        Simple ..... Write to the German government and complain.
        Geez... show a little generosity of spirit. It's embarrassing.

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          #79
          Originally posted by Gary Jucha View Post
          Why should other countries other than Germany look after Nazi Monuments.

          Doe's not Germany have it's own war grave/monument commission.

          Britain pays and looks after her's on foreign soil as best as possible !

          Simple ..... Write to the German government and complain.
          Too bad britain pays. Most countries that were subjugated to british rule would rather forget their suffering and humiliation. And that's a whole lot of countries that were subjugated.
          Last edited by Josh Cowell; 06-11-2014, 12:16 PM.

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            #80
            America

            Unfortunately I care not to spare any generosity of spirit towards monuments to Nazi's.




            Originally posted by Josh Cowell View Post
            Geez... show a little generosity of spirit. It's embarrassing.
            Last edited by Gary Jucha; 06-13-2014, 07:56 AM.

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              #81
              Originally posted by Gary Jucha View Post
              Unfortunately I care not to spare any generosity of spirit towards monuments to Nazi's.
              Go away mate your boring me

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                #82
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                Bored Inglish Bob, Sorry, I hope I haven't embarrassed you like Josh.

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                  #83
                  Originally posted by Gary Jucha View Post
                  Unfortunately I care not to spare any generosity of spirit towards monuments to Nazi's.
                  Time and again I wonder what you are doing on this forum. Do you actually collect Third Reich militaria? Surely the awards must mean something to you - knowing what the soldier may have gone through to be awarded a decoration or badge? This is nothing about celebrating Nazis, it is about honouring young men who fought and died for their country - they just happened to be on the losing side. Yes some of them may have committed atrocities, but so did the victors to some degree.

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                    #84
                    Originally posted by Seigfried View Post
                    Time and again I wonder what you are doing on this forum. Do you actually collect Third Reich militaria? Surely the awards must mean something to you - knowing what the soldier may have gone through to be awarded a decoration or badge? This is nothing about celebrating Nazis, it is about honouring young men who fought and died for their country - they just happened to be on the losing side. Yes some of them may have committed atrocities, but so did the victors to some degree.
                    Couldn't agree more with your comments
                    Notis

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                      #85
                      ...and most of all,those young soldiers were German folks,not necessarily "Nazis".
                      Makes me wanna throw up when I get this "compliment" from fellow Greeks,when
                      they realize my hobby...

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                        #86
                        I normally stay out of these discussions (as I learned my lessons years ago), but I think Gary makes a valid point that perhaps Germany should pay for the memorial - or do nothing and let time take its toll.

                        There are the ruins of memorials all over the region for past battles and while perhaps some modern era collectors may feel this particular battle was worthy of such a memorial I guess I need to ask WHY? It was a rather minor battle in the grand scheme of things for both sides. Yes, some 17,000 British and Commonwealth troops were captured while another 7,000 were killed or wounded but that pales to other battles in the conflict. Apart from the paratrooper angle I don't see why this is even such a big deal?

                        As for other memorials I don't see many calls for the Greeks to restore the Augustus' Victory Monument in honor of the Battle of Actium. That victory WAS a huge deal that lead to the founding of the Roman Empire! There WAS a huge memorial that lasted a few centuries but eventually fell into disrepair and is a ruin today.

                        Greece, Italy, Turkey are filled with ruins that span the centuries. I just don't understand why a handful of people show such passion for a memorial that is so controversial.

                        There are plenty of war memorials for the First and Second World Wars but usually it is the nation's involved that pay for their upkeep... so Gary's point that Germany should pay has merit.

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                          #87
                          Originally posted by Seigfried View Post
                          Time and again I wonder what you are doing on this forum. Do you actually collect Third Reich militaria? Surely the awards must mean something to you - knowing what the soldier may have gone through to be awarded a decoration or badge? This is nothing about celebrating Nazis, it is about honouring young men who fought and died for their country - they just happened to be on the losing side. Yes some of them may have committed atrocities, but so did the victors to some degree.
                          I agree also, especially this part '.... I wonder what you are doing on this forum. Do you actually collect Third Reich militaria? ..."
                          Last edited by birdie; 06-13-2014, 05:31 PM.

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                            #88
                            Originally posted by Gary Jucha View Post
                            Unfortunately I care not to spare any generosity of spirit towards monuments to Nazi's.
                            Wow, you have really shown how much you know. Your a genious, now go away and impress people elsewhere.....

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                              #89
                              Contribute !!

                              Hi,
                              there is a german association and a site about this memorial and how they want to save it.
                              They also collect funds for the preservation....so support them and post here how much you have given to save this so important monument. Based on some comments here in this thread, I do not have any doubt that there will be generosity....

                              http://www.fallschirmjaeger-denkmal.de/

                              Regards
                              Christian

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                                #90
                                "I normally stay out of these discussions (as I learned my lessons years ago), but I think Gary makes a valid point that perhaps Germany should pay for the memorial - or do nothing and let time take its toll.

                                There are the ruins of memorials all over the region for past battles and while perhaps some modern era collectors may feel this particular battle was worthy of such a memorial I guess I need to ask WHY? It was a rather minor battle in the grand scheme of things for both sides. Yes, some 17,000 British and Commonwealth troops were captured while another 7,000 were killed or wounded but that pales to other battles in the conflict. Apart from the paratrooper angle I don't see why this is even such a big deal?

                                As for other memorials I don't see many calls for the Greeks to restore the Augustus' Victory Monument in honor of the Battle of Actium. That victory WAS a huge deal that lead to the founding of the Roman Empire! There WAS a huge memorial that lasted a few centuries but eventually fell into disrepair and is a ruin today

                                Greece, Italy, Turkey are filled with ruins that span the centuries. I just don't understand why a handful of people show such passion for a memorial that is so controversial.

                                There are plenty of war memorials for the First and Second World Wars but usually it is the nation's involved that pay for their upkeep... so Gary's point that Germany should pay has merit.
                                "

                                Well said Peter. Its up to Crete nobody else....
                                Last edited by Tim O'Keefe; 06-14-2014, 06:05 AM.

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