Marble desk set with eagle

[Gene]

Looks like something a KM NCO assigned to a desk job might have picked up somewhere in France. Cheesy souvenirs aren't just a latter day reality.

[Shawn Bern]

Hi

I see nothing wrong with this piece as nothing says that it is not period. What I see in this piece is something that would be very intensive to manufacture with the intent of "forgery" simply not being worth a persons time. While I do recognize that their are fantasy pieces out there, I find it hard to believe someone say in the 1960's thought that, today I will find two pieces of marble that are exactly alike, make a ink well out of one and attached a post war golden third reich eagle to it. Again, If I was going to fake something for the market I would spend it somewhere else that was easier to do that would garnish more of a return (the motivator). I just think that making this piece post war is not where I would spend my time doing this. Of course a caveat to this of course anything can happen however, I beleive this piece to be period in style and manufacture. As for answering some of the previous post concerning this piece, I seen reference to this pice being hideous, and "why would a Army officer have this on their desk"? To be sure, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and relating "taste" to authenticity is a practice better left out. I find it to be quite nice looking myself. There was also reference made to it being cheaply made. Why I dont feel I can make that determination to my own personal standard and definition without holding it my hands, this is one ideology that has hindered the collecting community throughout all aspects of collecting Third Reich items. While I recognize that Nazi Germany was well known for quality, I have seen item vary in quality and craftsmanship that were indeed period. In short, Germany had crappy trinkets too. I have also seen what someone would refer to as negativity, as well as questioning the pieces authenticity. On a public forum with so many participating I can think of only a handful of post where everyone agreed. It is especially bad in the helmet forum where it has taken on a sense of entertainment rather than any garnishable knowledge. If a person is going to comment on a item, especially in a negative/non authentic way, please back it up with as to why. Be scarred of the helmet people, they are a bunch of villagers looking to lynch people/things in which they do not understand...Anyway nice piece.

PS... Does anyone know where I can get some DR Porcelain or silver serving pieces? I also am looking for any diplomatic items of the same. Any direction would be greatly appreciated.






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[Niblet]

Cheesy souvenirs aren't just a latter day reality
good point


to the latest poster,,,the item was posted for comments,,I gave my opinion
of the item,,and I stated why I felt the way I did. there is absolutely
nothing to indicate the inkwell is 3rd reich,,,these items were made together some time ago,,that much is fairly certain,,I think someone took off whatever was on the
base and shoved in that cheesy eagle and swaz,,,walla,, instant nazi desk ornament. If the poster doesnt like what i have to say,,thats fine,,its on his shelf,,not mine,,,he paid for it not me,,,

[edelweiss3]

better pics from floridaguy need. same typ of eagle?

[Shawn Bern]

Edelweiss

Do you own this eagle? What are the measurement of this eagle? Do you know it to be a original or repo? What does the bottom look like? Was it attached to something?

[edelweiss3]

Do you own this eagle? What are the measurement of this eagle? Do you know it to be a original or repo? What does the bottom look like? Was it attached to something?

sorry a littel late, but better than never.

original yes, here you see whats happen (pic its from www, not mine)

[mloppkit]

Hello Shawn Bern & Florida guy

I agree with you both that this piece is original.
This piece (in my opinion as a long time desk eagle ornament collector) is completely original. Having seen and handled many of these pieces over the years, they are not "cheaply made' but well crafted pieces attached to pieces of Italian marble that have also been also well cut, carved and polished. This gilted gold Kreigsmarine eagle is a well-made two piece example of which turn up from time to time and are considered original. I have seen these inkwell pieces advertised in period magazines and newspapers and were quite popular in the '30s. I have also personally taken apart a similar desk inkwell piece to this and verified that its construction matches the techniques and materials used in the 1920's and 30s. In addition to this, upon taking apart the ink-blotter piece, the blotting paper was actually labelled 'orig,universal-loschblock and dated 1934. Another piece I attach a photo of was described as "black marble inkwell trimmed with sienna marble from the Art Deco period circa 1920' by the well-respected dealer- "capocchi". The other example -photo courtesy Klaus Butchek.

Best Regards,
Michael

[mloppkit]

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[mloppkit]

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[mloppkit]

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[Berra]

Here you have a picture from a periodic publication depicting the first type of eagle.

Mloppkit: Beutifull desk set

[coloradocowboy]

ive got this and told it was a desk eagle. looks a lot like the one posted