Another u-boat badge question

[morel5000]

Hi All,

did anyone ever see the "massive" Deumer badge as seen here in the catalog?

If you got the Hollow one, pleas post it also!!!



Thanks,
Michel

[morel5000]

As an addition,

if they exist... please post the "Massive" S&L badges...

[Norm F]

Hi All,

did anyone ever see the "massive" Deumer badge as seen here in the catalog?

If you got the Hollow one, please post it also!!!

Thanks,
Michel

Hi Michel,

I just noticed this thread. I don't own any of these badges personally, but in my opinion this is the Deumer Tombak Imperial U-Boat badge in both "massiv" and "hohl" versions, as depicted in the late 1930's Deumer catalog.

Best regards,
---Norm

[Norm F]

For comparison, here's the Deumer-attributed TR-style U-Boat depicted in the Deumer catalog. The catalog pictures are somewhat stylized versions of the actual badges. You can see the same reverse setups used on the Imperial U-Boat badges.

Best regards,
---Norm

[Norm F]

Of course, herein lies the dilemma. Both the Deumer and S&L catalogs show separate stylized representations of what appears to be the same obverse design.

The same reverse setup on the Deumer TR period U-Boat suggests the previous hollow Imperial badge is a Deumer but in that case, where is the S&L Imperial U-Boat?

Best regards,
---Norm

[Norm F]

And then there's this intriguing hollow example from this old thread:
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=574896
Same design but a much thicker heavier version it appears, with good detail and the same setup. But is it a Deumer or an S&L?

Best regards,
---Norm

[morel5000]

Thanks Norm for your informative answer!


Here is the 3rd Reich U-boat Deumer/ Hymmen? design on a period postcard.

Best regards,
Michel

[Norm F]

Here is the 3rd Reich U-boat Deumer/ Hymmen? design on a period postcard.

Hi Michel,

Yes, an example of that postcard is also shown in Volume III of the "The Kriegsmarine Awards" (B&D Publishing). It's actually the Deumer design U-Boat. The Hymmen design is very similar but with small differences in the shape of the eagle's beak and the U-Boat's superstructure.

Best regards,
---Norm