Anyone have a list of kvk2 makers?

[Andy B.]

Hi Guys,
To be more precise, I am looking to see if anyone has a list of the maker marks stamped on the rings of kvk2s. Both with and without swords. I tried a search without success. Any help would be appreciated.
Many thanks in advance.
Sincerely Andy B.

[Darrell]

Hi Guys,
To be more precise, I am looking to see if anyone has a list of the maker marks stamped on the rings of kvk2s. Both with and without swords. I tried a search without success. Any help would be appreciated.
Many thanks in advance.
Sincerely Andy B.

Hi Andy,

Can't remember seeing a list of KVK makers ... only hope Gordon's book comes out soon:

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=662

[Andy B.]

Hi Darrell, I think your right. That book would help alot. Come on Gordon, if your watching don't keep us in suspense.
Andy

[ANDY BUTKUS]

I'm looking forward to getting my hands on that book...

[Laurence Strong]

So am I. However Chris Ailsby's (Warlord) book "A Collectors guide nto: WORLD WAR 2 GERMAN MEDALS AND POLITICAL AWARDS" lists the following:

KVK2 with swords

4, 14 (in square), 18, 19, 34, 43, 45, 56, 57, (in oblong box), 101, 113, Jakob Bengel

I am assuming the name is from an envelope.
From my collection I can add the following:

53, 67, 100, L11, L58,

For the KvK2 without Swords he list's the same numbers and I can also add:

50, 52, 55, 66.

Hope this helps

[Andy B.]

Thanks Laurence
To add to that list I have:
w/swords: 87
w/o swords: 88, 60 (at least is looks like a 60 with the top of the 6 cut off).
Andy B.

[George Stimson]

I have these:

Second Class -- without swords

14. Lauer
17. Unk
19. E. Ferd. Wiedmann
36. Bury & Leonhard
41. Gebruder Bender
52. Gottleib und Wagner
60. Katz & Dreyhle (with packet, marked)
75. Unk
15. Friedrich Orth (with packet, marked - cross marked 77)
88. Werner Redo
99. Schweitzer & Cie
107. Carl Wilde
136.

Second Class - with swords

3. Wilhelm Deumer
6. Fritz Zimmermann
7. Paul Meybauer
9. Liefergemeinschaft Pforzheimer Schmuckhandwerker
10. Foerster & Barth
11.
13. Gustav Bremer
14. Lauer
15. Friedrich Orth
16. Alois Rettenmaier
18. Karl Wurster KG
19. E. Ferd. Wiedmann
31. Hans Gnad
34. Willy Annetsberger
38. Unk
40. Berg & Nolte
41. Gebruder Bender
42. Bindermann & Co.
45. Franz Jungwirth
53. Glaser & Sohn
56. Robert Hauschild
61. Rudolf A. Karnethz
63. Franz J. Klast & Sohne
64. Gottl. Fr. Keck & Sohn
65. Klein & Quenzer
67. H. Kriesel
68. Alfred Knobloch
72. Franz Lipp
74. Carl Maurer Sohn
82. Augustin Prager
87. Roman Palme
89. Rudolf Richter
90. August F. Richter
91. Josef Rossler & Co.
93. Richard Simm & Sohne
95. Adolf Scholze
100. Rudolf Wachtler & Lange
101. Rudolf Tam
107. Carl Wild
108. Arno Wallpach
110. Otto Zappe
113. Hermann Aurich
127. Moritz Hausch AG
133. Unk
135. Julius Mosersen

[Darrell]

Anyone have a list of 1st Class? The list must be fairly short. Surprisingly, you dont see very many different makers of these. They tend to fall into about 9-10 manufacturers.

[George Stimson]

Here are the ones I have. I've not seen too many others.

First Class - with swords

1. Deschler
3. Wilhelm Deumer
4. Steinhauer & Luck
15. Friedrich Orth
43. Julius Bauer Sohne
62. Kerbach & Osterhelt, tombak, cased
62. Kerbach & Osterhelt, zinc
65. Klein & Quenzer, tombak, unusual mark
65. Klein & Quenzer, zinc, “accepted” mark
84. Carl Pellath
L/10. Deschler
L/11. Wilhelm Deumer
L/12. Juncker
L/13. Paul Meybauer
L/21. Foerster & Barth
L/52. Zimmermann
L/57. Boerger & Co.
Stickpin, L/57 Boerger & Co.
Unmarked, probably Petz u. Lorenz. U. Reichenbach WTTBG

First Class - without swords

4. Steinhauer & Luck
15. Friedrich Orth
L/11. Wilhelm Deumer
L15. Otto Schickle
L/21. Foerster & Barth
50. Karl Gschiermeister

[Darrell]

Thanks George.

[George Stimson]

I can also think of "L15" and "L/58" as accepted makers of the KVK 1 with swords.

[Andy B.]

Thanks George

[Woytas]

I can add that the maker "11" for second class with swords is Grossmann & Co. Wien

[Hank C.]

I received "25" (Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Graveur-Gold-und Silberschemiede-Innungen
Hanau) and "60" (Katz u. Dehle Pforzheim) marked 2nd class w/swords in a small grouping.

best
Hank

[javi_e]

i have seen on a dealer a 65 2nd class without swords.