Messhall Porcelian Finds

[Edelweisse]

Hi Folks:

I recently attended another flea market in the area and found a Heer (Army) messhall pitcher with lid and a KM (Kriegsmarine) large size coffee cup.....but what I noticed is that there are no hallmarks. They are plainly marked with the Heer Eagle w/swastika and KM Eagle w/swastika & "M".

The coffee or drink pitcher w/lid is also a new design/type for me.

Are these late war pieces....? I have many porcelain pcs...and many are hallmarked by the German porcelain makers....so this is a new one for me. I would appreciate comments from those who have more experience ...thank you,

[glaser]

Both not original IMHO

[Edelweisse]

Thanks for your opinion...but based upon.....what data...besides opinion?

They sure do have the age and appear period...I believe that they are non-German made by another allied/occupied country.

[Edelweisse]

Another reason for me thinking non-German...the firm doesn’t want to be associated with makiing products for Germans....so they fail to affix their hallmark to what they produce.

[Edelweisse]

I could be "way out there" in my thinking....but other countries produced messhall dinner ware...like Poland, Hungary, and Czech......and like I said...I've never seen these types of dinner ware before...but I could be completely wrong. I saw where one said...after 1944...they only posted the eagle and date.

If I'm wrong...OK Thanks,

[glaser]

Both stamps are fake IMHO.