e-tool with carrier

[Schneckenmacher]

Hey Mike,
this is really great stuff!

When I searched the forum for my carrier I actually found these threads where your already showed the cgn-cover and where discussions took place whether the unmarked ones might be kvz, fkx or cey.
There are also threads showing marked fkx carriers, these differ quit from yours or the unmerked ones.
What's most interesting to me is the fact that kvz and and your cgn used the same ersatzstoff which shows this quite characteristically surface at the inner side.

What makes me wonder is your carrier from Bautzen - is it really marked with the entire producer name?
I would expect a marker shortcut or RBNr in the 1943 period.

[sfmike1]

Hey Mike,
this is really great stuff!

What makes me wonder is your carrier from Bautzen - is it really marked with the entire producer name?
I would expect a marker shortcut or RBNr in the 1943 period.

We have discussed my tan carrier on the forum before. It is original, even though E.G. Leuner is believed to have used "bla" and "ros" codes on other items. Here is one thread showing the marking, along with another carrier that looks like yours, but with the same maker's stamp and WaA. Not all makers adapted the three letter codes at the same time, evidently.

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=836555

SF MIke

[Schneckenmacher]

Learning never stops :-).

You are right, Leuner was obviously the third produce in the row using the characteristic ersatzstoff.
But again: the stitching differs from my one.
I more and more would assign it to kvz - especially when I think abput the distinctive accordance with respect to the stitching ...

[sfmike1]

Learning never stops :-).

You are right, Leuner was obviously the third produce in the row using the characteristic ersatzstoff.
But again: the stitching differs from my one.
I more and more would assign it to kvz - especially when I think abput the distinctive accordance with respect to the stitching ...

If it helps....here is a '43 kvz I used to own - sold to another forum member. Similar to yours as well....but still a bit different.
SF Mike

[Schneckenmacher]

Hey Mike,

I would like to repost some kvz that I found here in the forum:

I marked accordances in green and differences in red:
The first one is nearly similar to my one, except the stitching of the two leather loops.
And actually this difference occurs at all marked kvz's I know so far ... (therefore you might be right)

[Schneckenmacher]

The second one is a little closer to your former one:
Strange thing here: you might notice the long strap that posseses much more than the expected 5 holes.

[sfmike1]

[QUOTE=Schneckenmacher;7618683]The second one is a little closer to your former one:
Strange thing here: you might notice the long strap that posseses much more than the expected 5 holes.

I think the strap on the last one was replaced at some point. The roller buckle is inconsistent, as you point out, and the straps on the kvz carriers seem quite thin (compared to other models). That was the first thing i noticed on mine - the flimsy late war straps.
SF Mike

[Schneckenmacher]

... and the straps on the kvz carriers seem quite thin (compared to other models). That was the first thing i noticed on mine - the flimsy late war straps.
SF Mike

This is what I also can state out for my piece: thin and quite slim o|O.
What do you think about the different materials?
The loops, the short and the long strap are each made of different kinds of leather.
Could that point towards a late manufacturing periode?

I also thougt about what you said about the different stitching...
So I just mention two other producer: gyb, qxc.
Both share the same property that they mark their carriers at the end of the long strap.
Additionally, both used the same stitching of the loops at the top.
(I will give my best to post some pictures here)

Would you rather assign the carrier to one of those producers?

[Schneckenmacher]

Unbelievable - I found this quite old thread - dealing with 'my' carrier o|O.

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...hlight=carrier

The coincidence is amazing!

[Bruno Plota]

Good night gentlemen.

I am an apprentice saddler and shoemaker. Recently I restored an original case, including the strap. I took the exact measurements of a leather carrier (made by OTTO SINDEL 1938) and another of Preßstoff (erg 44) and of course also of its straps (with the distance between the holes, distance from the end, width of the belt, measurement of The holes..etc). If you need any measurements send me a private message and I will be happy to answer.

Greetings
Guillermo