Default Tramp "soldier's" pocket coffee grinder (Kaffeemühle) estand

[HAF]

lol guys please stop buying this post war pos........its made in 50's!

[HAF]

forget the link
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...01#post6169201

[octopuss]

Hello

Please, what is the difference between pre-war and post-war?

Thanks

[Nick Komiya]

He means there never was a war time version used by the Germans. In other words, a fantasy piece.
I too warned about this fraud just recently http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=640976

[Seigfried]

lol guys please stop buying this post war pos........its made in 50's!

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=834089

This crap is still being sold as original Third Reich equipment!

They never existed during WW2!

[Hans Kristian]

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=834089

This crap is still being sold as original Third Reich equipment!

They never existed during WW2!

John, thx for the warning, but what books are he using as "proff"..?..some author must also have gotten this wrong..!!..

Anyway, someone bought it...

Maybe there should be a limit of posts before you could sell stuff on the e-stand..?..this seller has 0 posts...!!

[Seigfried]

John, thx for the warning, but what books are he using as "proff"..?..some author must also have gotten this wrong..!!..

Anyway, someone bought it...

Maybe there should be a limit of posts before you could sell stuff on the e-stand..?..this seller has 0 posts...!!

I made the same mistake myself, hence I wanted to warn others. I saw the grinder in this oft referenced book, it is the only book that depicts it as WW2 as far as I know, and it looked a 'must have' addition to my collection so I bought one off ebay.de. I then did the research (idiot I know) afterwards and found that they were 1950s and there are no period photographs in use. The seller may not know either to be fair. I put mine back on ebay.co.uk as a coffee grinder and it went for more than I paid so not all bad!

[17thairborne]

John,
Thank you for providing this information. Ever since I first saw them for sale in the last 5 or so years, i thought they would be a nice addition to a personal effects display. Now we know better.

[Seigfried]

The reference book used by the seller showing the "TRAMP" appears to be "Der Infanterist des Deutschen Heer"

Der Infanterist des deutschen Heeres: Uniform und Ausrüstung 1939-1945 (German) Hardcover <!-- use pre formatted date that complies with legal requirement from media matrix -->– Nov 2008
by Agustin Sáiz Martinez (Author), Karl-Peter Veltze (Translator), Bernd Retzlaff (Translator)

Just under £40.00 new.






I guess that it goes to prove that just because something is in a book does not guarantee authenticity! It is a shame as it looks a very well illustrated book but makes you wonder what else is questionable.









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[Seigfried]

Seller's pic.

[4th division]

Seller's pic.

The "bakelite" matchbox in the picture is bad too.

[anmarlodz]

The "bakelite" matchbox in the picture is bad too.

A lot of items shown in this book is rubbish - fakes/ copies or postwar made. It is full of mistakes and is not the best reference book at all.

[Seigfried]

A lot of items shown in this book is rubbish - fakes/ copies or postwar made. It is full of mistakes and is not the best reference book at all.

Do you have it?

[CWP]

I have it. He is right. Very many fake or postwar items shown.

[djpool]

Unfortunately it was also shown in Vol I of my ration book. Unfortunately we focused most of our attention on the rations themselves and didn't screen the equipment as closely as we should have. I've flagged it for deletion if a second edition is ever printed. Jim


Ps I read the post by bubble and I'm confused. I understand these mills weren't manufactured specifically for the Wehrmacht, but he leaves open the possibility that they made have been a private purchase item that could have been used by German soldiers. He stated that he got that info from the manufacturer. Did I read that correctly or was something missing in translation.