A possible way to decipher the capital letter maker´s mark found on mess kits and can

[MULON]

Here is where I have seen these codes

And this is what I'm asking for. Thank you very much

[MULON]

Now remain only this list:

ALU - Anton Laumayer, Ulm

AWF - Aluminiumwarenfabrik Fischbach, Fischbach
or
AWF - Alwin Wagner, Metallwarenfabrik

AWS - Arno Wallpach, Salzburg

e.m.k. - Göttinger Aluminiumwerke, GmbH

ET - Eisenhüttenwerk Thale, Thale/Harz

H.W.M. - Honsel-Werke A.G. Meschede

JFS - Johann Feix Sohne, Gablonz

WBL - Wilhelm Berg, Lüdenscheid

Can you confirm if those decoding re right talking about canteens and mess kits?
Thanks, Gian

[Suimpftarn]

ALU - I HAVE NEVER SEEN THESE ON WW2 canteens or mess kits. I think it was used in the 20ies to mark "ALU"-MINIUM hardware

But there are advertising:

[Euronymous]

All items with "TSR" marking are really reproduction ?

I have a spoon / fork marked TSR 42. Is it a really a fake ?

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@Suimpftarn: can you show an item that is marked with "ALU" ? Are there any with this marking ?

@Euronymous: yes, common repro company for movies and re-enactment:
http://shop.derpanzerbaer-militaria....el-Loeffel-Alu

[Suimpftarn]

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I do not have that. I would like to illustrate - we see advertising "Anton Laumayer Ulm", we see markings, but the canteen themselves (on WW2) nobody saw.

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Ok, so the "ALU" code was just invented by you, assuming that "Anton Laumayer, Ulm" would be having this code ?

So we should delete this code from the list please, as there is no proof that it ever existed.

[Bernhard]

Yes this code should be deletet because
Anton Laumayer , Ulm did NOT produce These items.
He simply sold them !

This also the reason why we never ever saw a MMN canteen.
Max Müller Nürnberg was a Producer of leather items.
He did not make the items shown in his list.
He just sold them.

Here let´s have a look .......

[Bernhard]

In the foreword we find among other rules...


1.Each and every company has to be in the adressbook !

2.Each and every Company has to declare their main field of
busisnes

3.So that it can easily be found by the custumers...

[Bernhard]

And when we search for the Firma of Herr Laumayer , we will find it listed
as something like a hardware store "Eisenwarengroßhandlung"

That clearly proofs that he was a dealer - not a maker.

Best regards

Bernhard

[knoffhoff]

Could you check if "Deutsche Metallwerke Neustadt a.d. Weinstraße" existed back then an what they produced?

[MULON]

Dmn?

[knoffhoff]

Like I told you before, it is just a wild guess. I have absolutely no proof for it being DMN.
Would just be interested whats said about them in that book.

[Bernhard]

Like I told you before, it is just a wild guess. I have absolutely no proof for it being DMN.
Would just be interested whats said about them in that book.

OK guys , unfortunately I do not have the Branchenbuch of the Rheinland Pfalz Region.
But I did find the aforementioned Company in bothe the Michael Heidler
Codebook .
The three letter code for this Company was "abc"

I also found two entries in the phonebook .
So we can say for sure that this Company did exist during the timeframe we are interrested in a n d that they were assigned "abc" as Fertigungscode for
whatever they made.

Hope that helps !

[Bernhard]

Could you check if "Deutsche Metallwerke Neustadt a.d. Weinstraße" existed back then an what they produced?

UPDATE:

I rechecked page 12 of the "Branchenbuch" for supplier of Feldflaschen and guess
what ....I found ....
In the " Ortsverzeichnis" there is a maker of Feldflaschen in "Neustadt an der Weinstrasse" listed.....
...and there is a certain firm "Deutsche Metallwerke Neustadt a.d.Weinstr."
offering their products on the same page....

So , from my point of view it is very likely that the company did make feldflaschen
and marked them accordingly.....
DMN ...would be the appropriate marking in my humble opinion...!
Quite interresting their trademark on their civilian products was "DEMETA"
as you can see from their ad .....