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**Reptyle** · 07-01-2009, 05:47 AM

I also have a mess tin that tells the story of a german soldier.
It's written almost exactly the same way as yours.

The only difference is that this soldier didn't went to Russia but to Germany, Norwege, France, Polen and lot's of other places.

The tin has most of it's paint remaining.
I'll post pictures if I have time!

I like yours better, because he has been in Russia, what interests me more.

**corporalSteiner** · 07-01-2009, 05:58 AM

Originally posted by Reptyle View Post

I also have a mess tin that tells the story of a german soldier.
It's written almost exactly the same way as yours.

The only difference is that this soldier didn't went to Russia but to Germany, Norwege, France, Polen and lot's of other places.

The tin has most of it's paint remaining.
I'll post pictures if I have time!

I like yours better, because he has been in Russia, what interests me more.

oh, how such mess tins awaken the poets and romantics in some forum members...

**Reptyle** · 07-01-2009, 06:27 AM

Here are some pics of the mess tin I was 'poëting' about. ^^

**David Fettes** · 07-01-2009, 06:34 AM

There is a similar messtin on display at the KZ musuem at Sachsenhausen. The only trouble is its a BW one and is dated 1983!!!

However I will not hijack this thread and start a new one.

**grndevil44** · 07-01-2009, 07:48 AM

another nice messtin, thanks for showing Reptyle, CCJ 41 have not seen that maker before,
could you do some more detailed shots?

thanks for all the comments, I posted it because I knew you guys would be interested in seeing it

here are the last few inscriptions from around the top

did I mention the lid is MN40 and the base ESB40

cheers

john

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**grndevil44** · 07-01-2009, 07:57 AM

Originally posted by B. Dietz View Post

Not the literaly translation, rather the feeling/meaing)
Top
Nicht aergern nur Wundern - Don't get angry just wonder (today we would say Don't sweat it/go with the flow)
Back
Nach meiner Heimat ziehts mich wieder - Home pulls at me again
Soldat sein - heisst auf draht sein - Being a Soldier - means being focused
Bottom
Unrasier und Fern der Heimat - unshaven and far from home

The rest are places his been, and name.

Beutiful item btw, it would be nice to chart the locations out on a map.

thanks for the translation, especially - unshaven and far from home, quite sad really

**corporalSteiner** · 07-01-2009, 08:06 AM

nice thread...feel it will grow and grow...i love the way the marks are left...a steady hand put those letters into the aluminum....quite a common-place habit it would seem, esp amongst pows...with little other belongings. there's a small book potentially here!

**Admiraal** · 07-01-2009, 09:24 AM

I got one aswell, but its a French messkit, made by a French POW

**B. Dietz** · 07-01-2009, 01:05 PM

Da wo man singt -da lass ich Dich nieder
Lay yourself down in the place that you sing

boese Menschen haben keine Lieder
Bad people don't have songs

These last to are heart wrenching to say the least.

**B. Dietz** · 07-01-2009, 01:09 PM

Originally posted by grndevil44 View Post

thanks for the translation, especially - unshaven and far from home, quite sad really

Gerngeschehen (your welcome)

I've provided the last 2

**grndevil44** · 07-19-2009, 06:46 PM

have been taking some time to find out more about the history of this messtin

after Poland this batallion was part of the 17th army (army group south, divided into army group A after aug 42) during operation barbarossa, the invasion of Russia

The places names on this tin correspond to the movement of this army group through Russia/Ukraine,

some extracts of what I found related to places on this tin

In 1942, Army Group South was to spearhead the German summer offensive in Russia known as Case Blue (Fall Blau). The 17th Army was to give flank protection to 1st Panzer Army as it struck towards the Don River.

While Army Group B struck towards Stalingrad, Army Group A and the 17th Army attacked towards the Caucasus oilfields in what was to be known as the Battle of the Caucasus.

However, by December with Soviet forces en-circled the 6th Army at Stalingrad, Army Group B withdrew from Southern Russia but 17th Army was ordered to hold the Kuban Bridgehead. Hitler demanded a three-mile road and rail bridge across the Strait of Kerch in spring 1943 to support a push through the Caucasus to Persia, although the Cable Railway (Aerial tramway) which went into operation on July 14 with a daily capacity of one thousand tons was adequate for the defensive needs of the 17th Army in the Kuban Bridgehead

San-San River Poland
Bug-River Boh (Objective during opening stages of Barbarossa) area of importamt rail bridges
Dnjester-Dniester River
Dnjepr-Dniepr River

Stubno-Stubno a town in Poland
Kirowograd-Kirovohrad (ukraine)
Kremenschug-Kremenchug (ukraine)
Lossowaja-Lozovatka(Ukraine)
Barwenkowo-Barvenkovo (ukraine)
Pawlograd-Pavlograd (ukraine)
Nikidowka

Budenowsk-Budyonnovsk (Russia)
Mosdok-Mozdok (Russia) September 1942 - German offensive effectively stopped near Mozdok (just North of Grozney)
Gnadenburg-a few miles SW of Mozdok
Jassinowka-(what I think is) Jasionowka (Poland)
Abinskaja-Russia (just east of Straight of Kerch)
Estland-Estonia

Donez-Donetsk (Ukraine)
Don-(Southern region of the Crimea)
Terek-few miles west of Mozdok
Narva-Estonia

Ohakvere-Estonia
Jeve-Estonia (west of Narva)

Nowrosiysk-Novorossyisk (on the coast just to the east of the Crimea Penisula) · September 11, 1942 - Wehrmacht takes Novorossiysk
Anapa-few miles NE of Novorossyisk
Kertsch-Kerch (eastern tip of Crimea) three-mile road and rail bridge across the Strait of Kerch in spring 1943 to support a push through the Caucasus
Luga

cheers

john

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