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    hello guys, i´m the new owner of this italian zeltbahn on the stand.
    I was looking for italian camo and i have read this:

    "Genuine wartime Zeltbahnen made of Italian material are triangular and have the same aluminium, Bakelite or steel buttons and metal grommets as their German counterparts, if any. Stamps and marks are often illegible and are frequently no more than an R.B. number and a year of manufacture."

    "The basic 1929 camouflage design continued to be used by the Italian armed forces until the early 1990s. This has resulted in large quantities of surplus post-war poncho/tent sections being offered at militaria shows and on online auctions in recent years."

    is it original war time? any experts?












    #2
    Hi I´m the seller of this zelt so please comment on it as I will not sell it as original ww2 if postwar

    Thanks guys for helping us out
    Cheers
    Lars

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      #3
      Originally posted by javi_e View Post
      "Genuine wartime Zeltbahnen made of Italian material are triangular and have the same aluminium, Bakelite or steel buttons and metal grommets as their German counterparts."
      Incorrect - triangular zeltbahns of this material are wartime german (past 43).

      The one shown here is wartime as well, but italian.

      Postwar ital. camopattern looks like this:
      Attached Files

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        #4
        Hi,

        sorry is postwar years 50' the italian WW2 era camo poncho-tent
        don't have the metal grommets and the reverse is an dark green.
        regards
        Raffaello
        Attached Files
        "six italians, dressed in rather unusual diving suits and equipped with materials of laughably little cost have swung the military balance of power in the Mediterranean in favour of the Axis".

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          #5
          Excuse me Rafaello, are you saying that my zeltbahn is postwar?

          Lassi: can you post some close-up pics from the grommets like rafaello shows?

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            #6
            Originally posted by javi_e View Post
            Excuse me Rafaello, are you saying that my zeltbahn is postwar?

            Lassi: can you post some close-up pics from the grommets like rafaello shows?
            Yes, the camo tent with metal grommets are postwar.
            "six italians, dressed in rather unusual diving suits and equipped with materials of laughably little cost have swung the military balance of power in the Mediterranean in favour of the Axis".

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                #8
                Lassi your zelt is OK! this is the link of an example of german production with italian
                camouflage cloth with the metal grommets.


                http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=235747
                Last edited by Raffaello Carola; 10-16-2007, 05:24 PM.
                "six italians, dressed in rather unusual diving suits and equipped with materials of laughably little cost have swung the military balance of power in the Mediterranean in favour of the Axis".

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                  #9
                  Rafaello, the Lassis zelt is the same of above zelt, it is what i bought.I have buy it to Lassi.

                  So,...original? haha, or post war?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by javi_e View Post
                    Rafaello, the Lassis zelt is the same of above zelt, it is what i bought.I have buy it to Lassi.

                    So,...original? haha, or post war?
                    the Gran Sasso zelt colors years 50'...see the discussion
                    "six italians, dressed in rather unusual diving suits and equipped with materials of laughably little cost have swung the military balance of power in the Mediterranean in favour of the Axis".

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                      #11
                      ok ok, Yes the Gran sasso zelt is post war.

                      But i have posted and Lassi posted zelt are the same, so is it war time zelt italian made? it isn´t triangle.

                      perhaps we have had a mistake reading the lines of the posts.

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                        #12
                        more opinions?

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