Pioneer Equipment Pouches Opinions

[whsammler]

Here are a set of pioneer pouches that have just sold on ebay.

I have a feeling they are fake...but I would like a few more opinions.

Here is a link to the auction...the photos was too large to load in this thread.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...4828&rd=1&rd=1

[MP44_tom]

I know your feeling, specially since this seller is selling a lot of crap.

However, these look good to me to be honest......

Tom
www.mp44.nl

[Soldat de Fer]

Hello
I agree ,they do look good ,or is it just a very ,very well made fake ?
The grey leather linning is a good sign. Something that does bother me for some reason is the mint hook with rusted pins ( visible in the 1st, 2nd and 3rd picture) kind of strange to me.
Best Regards
Pierre-Yves

[Michael Kuligowski]

I liked these - wanted to bid - but I forgot

IMHO - good ones aside from a sellers poor reputation :]

if thewse were fakes - we are in the world of s-h-i-t

[edoudou68]

Fake !

Hi Guys,

Very very suspicious for me ...

And the the seller doesn't inspire confidence to me !

Regards
Ed

[pionier]

Don't like them too. The look like the (one of the best fake) pouches made in Italy as ordered by a known dutch collector.

[Michael Kuligowski]

well Guys !!! due to some difference in opinions and rather big value of these - I would like this thread to finally judge them.

- please post good and bad points - as I would like to know - what are these pouches !
We need to make a finall call in this matter

[Frozzer]

my 3 cents to this thread

- I Like construction of these pouches - but I don't like material in wich they was made. - it looks very similar to standard warsaw pact material -

anyway, all of webbings are ok - but that is, not a problem - there is a lot of backpack wich will be usefull in fake production.


IMHO - something is wrong with them - but I don't know what

[gebirg98]

Hello
For me this pouches are fakes
Here are severals pics of genuine showing three bad points
1- the inner lining protection for gasmask is normally in green rubberized
material (like gas cape)
2- the pressure buttons are PRYM 9 made
3- The iron closing (inner side) are very distincts
Regards
Bernard