Allgemeine ss or Nskk Ystrsp

[chahler]

Hi
From my research looks like they are early Allgemeine ss or nskk Y straps , I can’t find any markings .
All political Y straps are in brown collar .
I will appreciate your opinion
Thank you

[Texasuberalles]

Those atypical clips really say 'early' to me.

[chahler]

Thank you