Dog tags HJ Division and Pz Ers Abt

[Pionier1803]

Hey,
I bought these two Tags here on estand.
Now I got mixed opinions on the HJ Division Tag.

Could you may double check them?

Thank you very much

[M40]

Hey,
I bought these two Tags here on estand.
Now I got mixed opinions on the HJ Division Tag.

Could you may double check them?

Thank you very much

About the HJ Erkennungsmarke: In Jean Höidals book "Deutsche erkennungsmarken" on page 221 there is a similar disc, except the M-nr (16). The disc is described: "Edelstahl, Pz.marke 12 SS-Panzer-Division Hitlerjugend. 9. Kompanie. SS-Panzer-Regiment 12. M-nr 16." So I beleive that your disc is 100% original.

[Pionier1803]

Thank you very much.
Now also got confirmation on the german MFF forum.

Thanks

[Pervitin]

Sorry for me the HJ no way to be original and looks like artificialy aged.