That is very disheartening. I detest it when people mess with original items. So sad, no care for the history of the piece. I messed with one item once, everyone told me it was not supposed to be that way, I removed the trap and learned it was original applied. Never again do I do that.
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How would anyone know when that officer chincord was put on?
To be honest, if it was a period promotion and the owner bothered to put on an officer chincord, why didn't he also put on officer sidebuttons?
And any scratches on the skull would have been there already since it was originally worn as an NCO cap with NCO chinstrap to begin with.
What's disheartening is to see an NCO visor that someones messed with and added an officer chincord.
It is what it is, a nice NCO visor cap with correct configuration.Comment
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Because it's a Sonderanfertigung cap so the chances are high that the cords were added during the period by an Officer candidate.Comment
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http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=585649
See above for an Officers Sonderanfertigung cap with the exact same cords.Comment
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you never got the cap in hands and make such a comment.
If you would exame it closely you would see its there since ever with all its traces of positioning. Its not the only cap with such a period chin cord style that is well known to people who study such material well enough.
Originally posted by Sonderkommando View PostComment
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Very sad it's been altered. The original strap made it a rare item.
I don't think this has been done for aesthetic purposes. It has been changed purely for a fast resale for a higher price as shown by it cropping up for sale again so quicklyComment
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Originally posted by I Claudius View Post
It is NOT the original cord, the original cord was an NCO strap as evidenced by the sidebuttons.
The one Ben shows has the officer sidebuttons and that one I would say is an original upgrade, but this one could have been done any time since there is no provenance going back to the period for it.
I know it is a "special model" but there is just as much of a chance it was worn only by an NCO and never someone who was promoted to officer.
Robert has owned it and says there is evidence the officer cord was on there for a long time.....it could have easily been swapped out in the '50's for all anyone knows and would show 60 years of it being on there.
My point is, it's not ruined by the replacement of the NCO strap, it is what it is....a nice NCO cap in it's original configuration.Comment
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it could be the 50´s or 60´s by an advanced collector or easily in 38´s by a promoted NCO and for that the chances are quite higher.Comment
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one H.Wille mint one with the right sitting EM/NCO leather cord, nice flat attachedComment
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that is the case, go for the money nothing else to find another one with this promotion search for years or decades
Originally posted by I Claudius View PostComment
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Wrong, the cap I posted a link to is an Officers cap with velvet band.Originally posted by Sonderkommando View Post
It's relevant to this thread however because of the celleon cords which are uncommon and not the typical type.
If only one black cap had been found with these type cords, well you could rightly say that they were probably added post war.
But to find two and just on this forum alone is worth noting. (plus I have seen others)Comment
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Out of curiosity, how often are these celleon cords seen with that reverse twist on the black caps?Comment
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Have Seen around 4 or 5 pieces in 30 years.
Never have seen such cords pershible on the market nor in resale. This one was also UV negative.
My ex cap was a vet purchase from the old days in Canada and got it from one collector friend of mine in Canada close to 20 years ago.Comment
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