SS Officer Leather Coat Insignia Opinions Please

[timothy6719]

Hello,

I'd appreciate all opinions regarding the insignia on this coat.

Thanks,
Tim

[chahler]

Ss sleeve eagle , shoulder boards are Reproduction
It’s hard to tell from pictures but I bet the collar tabs are no good
Sorry for the bad news

[timothy6719]

Hello,

No problem on the news! I assumed the news would be bad. I appreciate the response.

Regards,
Tim

[Pacelli2]

Legacy collectibles already stated that the shoulderboards sleeve eagle and tabs are post war

[timothy6719]

Hello,

The legacy collectible listing initially stated the collar tabs and eagle were reproduction. They stated the shoulder boards as guaranteed original. The listing changed because I sent them an email regarding the shoulder boards. I didn't mention their name or website in my post as I wanted to reach out to them directly regarding this issue plus issues with several other WWII German Military items I've seen sell that were listed as original but were actually reproduction. They did get back to me and were extremely professional. They changed the listing with this coat and are reflecting the facts now. I believe if you have a business and you want to sell WWII German Military items you should vet these better than they have over the last six months or so. Anyway, I believe from their email response that they are trying to do it the right way moving forward. Hopefully it improves rather than becoming a high priced dumping site for questionable items.

Regards,
Tim

Legacy collectibles already stated that the shoulderboards sleeve eagle and tabs are post war

[Pacelli2]

Hello. I’ve had long dealings with Legacy Collectibles, pretty much since they first launched their site and I am pleased to state that I have, without exception, found them to conduct themselves with honesty and integrity, traits we don’t always encounter in this business. In this present climate, where reproductions are getting harder and harder to detect, they may, on occasion, miss something, but that’s what these forums are here for, to help point out errors or things that may have slipped their detection. This site is not a dumping ground, as was inferred previously, but is instead one of the more dependable places that collectors may go to feel safe and not fall prey to greedy merchants. That’s just my two cents and I’m sure others will chime in with their agreement. Furthermore, they did say that the collar tabs and sleeve eagle were reproductions and the only issue was the shoulder boards. This matter was brought to their attention, and they did the right thing by dropping the price, accordingly. Their immediate attention and self-correction earns two thumbs up from me! And as far as the coat, it’s a genuine wartime overcoat brought back by my uncle, and I purchased the shoulder boards from someone I thought was a reputable dealer. I’m the fool who trusted that dealer and the mistake is on me!
Best...

[Sonderkommando]

Are you also the one who added the fake collar tabs and sleeve eagle?

[timothy6719]

Hello,

Thanks for the response. As I mentioned, my initial post was simply asking for opinions on the authenticity of the insignia. My post was not a bash of Legacy Collectibles. I didn't use their name in my post because I first wanted to confirm my thoughts and then bring the issue directly to them for resolution. I agree they did resolve the issue by lowering the price to $1295. Luckily, no one purchased the leather coat immediately at $1995. That would have been a painful $700 plus lesson for someone. I hope they continue to improve their vetting of the items they sell.

However, with that said and since you brought up Legacy Collectibles in the post I do have to say if I was Legacy I'd be concerned with continuing to sell WWII German Militaria in the same manner as they have done in the past. Myself yesterday via email and others via phone conversations over the last few months have brought "reproduction" items being sold "as guaranteed originals" to their attention. By their own acknowledgment, they have no one on staff with any experience to differentiate good from bad or a plan to change it. All I can say is stop doing the same thing expecting different results. I'm sure they have a team member that could join the forum themselves or find someone that would be willing to work with them to vet items properly, if they want to continue to sell "Guaranteed Original" WWII German Militaria. Again, if it was just shoulder boards like yesterday that would be one thing but it has been many items over the course of several months now. No one including myself wants Legacy to experience issues but we should be able to expect Legacy to make improvements in how they conduct business when issues are repeatedly pointed out. This should be easy for them because as you mentioned Legacy conducts themselves with honesty and integrity. Anyway, just my thoughts.

Regards,
Tim

Hello. I’ve had long dealings with Legacy Collectibles, pretty much since they first launched their site and I am pleased to state that I have, without exception, found them to conduct themselves with honesty and integrity, traits we don’t always encounter in this business. In this present climate, where reproductions are getting harder and harder to detect, they may, on occasion, miss something, but that’s what these forums are here for, to help point out errors or things that may have slipped their detection. This site is not a dumping ground, as was inferred previously, but is instead one of the more dependable places that collectors may go to feel safe and not fall prey to greedy merchants. That’s just my two cents and I’m sure others will chime in with their agreement. Furthermore, they did say that the collar tabs and sleeve eagle were reproductions and the only issue was the shoulder boards. This matter was brought to their attention, and they did the right thing by dropping the price, accordingly. Their immediate attention and self-correction earns two thumbs up from me! And as far as the coat, it’s a genuine wartime overcoat brought back by my uncle, and I purchased the shoulder boards from someone I thought was a reputable dealer. I’m the fool who trusted that dealer and the mistake is on me!
Best...

[Ian Hulley]

I agree they did resolve the issue by lowering the price to $1295.

That's still €1K over-priced for an old leather coat which some idiot sewed fake insignia to.

Ian

[Pacelli2]

The insignia was applied for reinacting . If the coat is inexpensive Luke your implying why not give it ( THE LOOK ) 😡

[phild]

That's still €1K over-priced for an old leather coat which some idiot sewed fake insignia to.
Ian

I agree that the coat would have been best served to have been left alone in terms of not sewing the arm eagle or tabs, but I somewhat disagree with saying that it is just an old leather coat. Unlike about 9 out of 10 leather coats posted in this forum and at least that ratio of coats offered as WWII German through on-line auctions and dealer sites, this one is in fact a regulation (and very good conditioned) WWII German officer overcoat......no question or debate about it. The asking price is on the high side, but not unheard of in regards to what others like this have brought.
I would say without the post war sewing holes, which we have not seen, this coat would be around $800 give or take $200.