Waffen SS Officer Visor?!?

[Sol69]

Yes, it's that time again... visor time!

Would like some opinions on this please. If it is real, it's in a pretty bad state, but the insignia might be worth the money.

I don't like the yellowing of the piping etc, as I understand that it could be a sign of post war materials. Having said that, it could be age. I'm also not keen on the sweatband... so it's probably the real thing Limited images as per usual with some sellers.

Anyway, as ever, the price is awfully tempting. And it could contribute to the fund for a real, decent Allgemeine visor, which is where I want to be.

And if nothing else, it will provide some amusement for some of the members... not sure 'witch' ones.

[christian56789]

I think good Visor with Heer Eagle.

Br


Ich versichere, daß die von mir gezeigten zeitgeschichtlichen und militärhistorischen Gegenstände aus der Zeit 33-45 nur zu Zwecken der staatsbürgerlichen Aufklärung, der Abwehr verfassungswidriger, verfassungsfeindlicher Bestrebungen,Identitätsbestimmung, Originalitätsbestimmung gezeigt werden.

[Venturefan260]

This might be a good original visor with restored original skull and heer eagle. But the cap cord, not sure about that. They don't usually age like that.

Our more experienced members can shed more light on this, so better wait for more replies.

[jayjay198666]

looks original visor, the cords may have dis coloured through poor storage

[Sol69]

ouch...

It just sold for well over £3000 including commission etc... so I didn't even attempt it in such condition. Thought it might go for under a grand at one point.

Cheers all.

[stonemint]

This might be a good original visor with restored original skull and heer eagle. But the cap cord, not sure about that. They don't usually age like that.

Our more experienced members can shed more light on this, so better wait for more replies.

Cords are celleon--they will yellow w/ age depending on temp/humidity levels.

[rbno]

I agree with stonemint about celleon cords. I have a Heer signals officer with yellowed celleon officer cords.

It may also have been in a smoker's room. That would explain the yellowed piping. On the other hand, there doesn't seem to be a tar build up on the skull and Heer eagle.

[tgn]

That hat needs serious help.

[BenVK]

Good thing I bought it then!

[Sol69]

Congrats

Good thing I bought it then!

Obviously, better than I thought it was... enjoy it!

What are the insignia... is the eagle heer?

[SScollector]

Looks like a really nice Deschler skull and a Heer eagle to me.

Chris

[N.C. Wyeth]

Cords are celleon--they will yellow w/ age depending on temp/humidity levels.

Here is another one . . . seems to me, a lot of these SS "Contract" caps had those celleon cords.

[enorepap]

Hallo sol

From the image no. 1/2 I do not see a particular yellowing. Of course it was stored inappropriately so there was a crushing that had a lot of influence on both sides as shown by the last image no. 1/4. The interior is very convincing and no sign of a re-sewing of the sweatband. The exterior, given the overall conditions of conservation, is also convincing, even if the available images are really poor, especially about the condition of the band seams . As far as I can currently see, SS skull + Army eagle is a believable and possible period's combination. To make a more detailed discussion, the current owner should pull up the snout of the cap and show very detailed images of its frontal interior. All in all, I like it

Best regards

[dragnet]

What are the insignia... is the eagle heer?

If you cant tell a Heer eagle from another branch and your thinkinjg of spending a few grand on an SS visor your on a very steep learning curve for sure, think an investment in some good reference books might well do you some use

[jacquesf]

If you cant tell a Heer eagle from another branch and your thinkinjg of spending a few grand on an SS visor your on a very steep learning curve for sure, think an investment in some good reference books might well do you some use

Never a more true word spoken. That or a large tub of vaseline. J