M43 SS Cap for review

[Yamamoto]

Repro cap

There is nothing wrong with the cap.

[Daniel.S]

There is nothing wrong with the cap.

Looks like you made the trade afterall.

Another Hicks item and its worthless coa....

[Yamamoto]

So I assume you have written books, tell me in detail if you can what is wrong with the cap? Especially since the liner would need taken out to machine stitch the trap..

[Yamamoto]

I expect silence from you seeing most of your information I've seen posted here is nonsense with little remarks and a lack of information, just judgement.

[Daniel.S]

So I assume you have written books, tell me in detail if you can what is wrong with the cap?.

Just because Kelly Hicks has written some books doesnt mean all he sells is orginal. That goes for many authors.

You are making a big novice collector misstake by thinking that.

Especially since the liner would need taken out to machine stitch the trap.

How do you think fake hats are made?

BUT I wouldn't want something fake

You wanted opinions, you got them.

Good luck with the hat, as long as you are happy its all that matters.
Dont forget to hang the COA above it.

[B. N. Singer]

There is nothing wrong with the cap.

I concur with this statement; barring that it was not manufactured pre May 1945 (the collecting of M43 hats can seem quite daunting, particularly so when the field of SS is added to the mix).

B. N. Singer

[Yamamoto]

Just because Kelly Hicks has written some books doesnt mean all he sells is orginal. That goes for many authors.

You are making a big novice collector misstake by thinking that.



How do you think fake hats are made?




You wanted opinions, you got them.

Good luck with the hat, as long as you are happy its all that matters.
Dont forget to hang the COA above it.

I asked for options not snarky rude comments, and once again you've proven yourself useless.

[Glenn McInnes]

I asked for options not snarky rude comments, and once again you've proven yourself useless.

After some of your posts you deserve the snarky comments.

It sounds to me that you are buying the seller who has authored a few books on helmets and not the item,poor choice.

You are getting opinions from some of the most advanced M43 hat collectors around and yet you just ignore them.

Right now all I see on that website is a single button SS M43 in a grouping that I don't like and a Heer M43 with post war applied SS insignia. And then there is this one with it's twin posted for sale on the E Stand.

But if you like it and believe that it is original then have at it..I don't think any of us really give a sh*t..At least I don't.



Glenn

[Yamamoto]

After some of your posts you deserve the snarky comments.

It sounds to me that you are buying the seller who has authored a few books on helmets and not the item,poor choice.

You are getting opinions from some of the most advanced M43 hat collectors around and yet you just ignore them.

Right now all I see on that website is a single button SS M43 in a grouping that I don't like and a Heer M43 with post war applied SS insignia. And then there is this one with it's twin posted for sale on the E Stand.

But if you like it and believe that it is original then have at it..I don't think any of us really give a sh*t..At least I don't.



Glenn

Once again I'm another person trying to understand WHAT AND WHY this piece isn't right. You guys state you're "experts" but offer no reasons why its incorrect. As seen in other threads people just trying to learn and you guys act like you're something special because you can possibly know the difference between fake and original and then DO NOT ELABORATE! People want to understand and learn it's part of collecting.

[dragnet]

Once again I'm another person trying to understand WHAT AND WHY this piece isn't right. You guys state you're "experts" but offer no reasons why its incorrect. As seen in other threads people just trying to learn and you guys act like you're something special because you can possibly know the difference between fake and original and then DO NOT ELABORATE! People want to understand and learn it's part of collecting.

These guys have spent years learning, they have made bad judgments im sure in the past which would have cost them money! They learn by there mistakes, take time, read books, meet fellow collectors, belong to forums etc. Its a long haul as i know and its a steep learning curve!! By starting a new thread on an item for opinions and expecting these knowledgable fellow collectors to give up everything they have learnt from ''doing there time'' over the years is in my opinion over optimistic. From spending more time here you will get to know the members who should be listened to for advice, they dont have to do it
p.s. You dont even need to take there advice but moaning about the advice recived is just bad form, well again IMHO.

[90th Light]

Once again I'm another person trying to understand WHAT AND WHY this piece isn't right. You guys state you're "experts" but offer no reasons why its incorrect. As seen in other threads people just trying to learn and you guys act like you're something special because you can possibly know the difference between fake and original and then DO NOT ELABORATE! People want to understand and learn it's part of collecting.

You will find this thread an interesting read;

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ght=SS+M43+cap

Some years ago I asked the same question, why was there so much prejudice against this type of SS M43 cap with trap and in some cases HBT lining ?

My study of this type of M43 has continued to this day and I have gleaned important information from beyond WAF. All of which points to pre-May 1945 manufacture, including narrowing down where in the Reich they were made.

Given the condemnation of this type of M43 here on WAF, I would have thought the opposite might have resulted. Particularly considering some of the posts in the thread I have referred you to. That tangible evidence of them being fake as stated by some would have emerged on WAF and from beyond i.e. who made them post-war ?, where they were made post-war ?, when they were made post war ?, when they first appeared on the market ?, Stamp fonts ?, Lining materials ?, Button holes ? This list could continue but so far several years down the track, no post-war findings or facts have come to light.

Chris

[Yamamoto]

You will find this thread an interesting read;

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ght=SS+M43+cap

Some years ago I asked the same question, why was there so much prejudice against this type of SS M43 cap with trap and in some cases HBT lining ?

My study of this type of M43 has continued to this day and I have gleaned important information from beyond WAF. All of which points to pre-May 1945 manufacture, including narrowing down where in the Reich they were made.

Given the condemnation of this type of M43 here on WAF, I would have thought the opposite might have resulted. Particularly considering some of the posts in the thread I have referred you to. That tangible evidence of them being fake as stated by some would have emerged on WAF and from beyond i.e. who made them post-war ?, where they were made post-war ?, when they were made post war ?, when they first appeared on the market ?, Stamp fonts ?, Lining materials ?, Button holes ? This list could continue but so far several years down the track, no post-war findings or facts have come to light.

Chris

Chris I had searched and found the thread you just posted before. Some people that have posted here as well as you're thread had already pissed me off Haha thank you for info you have the better attitude that I have seen on here by far!

[viva_giulio]

It will very difficult to find support for this cap personally i do not like too (sewings to start, shape to finish) but you can hamdle and take your decision. Pics could give bad sensations and if will not made others i think you could have only bad feelings from these

[Yamamoto]

It will very difficult to find support for this cap personally i do not like too (sewings to start, shape to finish) but you can hamdle and take your decision. Pics could give bad sensations and if will not made others i think you could have only bad feelings from these

Very good statement thank you.

[billbert]

All will be revealed when it’s time to sell...Enjoy your new acquisition..Billbert