SS General Ranks Question

[vonStubben]

Does anyone know of an SS Obergruppenfuhrer that served in both Finland and Italy and if so what medals he was authorized?

Also, did any SS men ever qualify for the 25 year SS long service medal in gold. As far as I know, given the critera, there was no one...correct?

[August]

About #2; That is a good question that I have also wondered........

[Stangell]

About the #2, I remember that I have seen the medal bar for Heinrich Himmler that had the 25 Year award on it. Other than that I have no information on any other recipient.

[vonStubben]

About the #2, I remember that I have seen the medal bar for Heinrich Himmler that had the 25 Year award on it. Other than that I have no information on any other recipient.

Himmler's was in silver.

[istra63]

Lothar Debes filled both positions in Finland and Italy, however he only reached the rank of Gruppenfuhrer, and was a Brigadefuhrer in Finland.
Obergruppenfuhrers will have no doubt frequented these countries in an Inspectorate capacity.

[mathiass]

About #2; That is a good question that I have also wondered........

Question 2.

"1925, two years after the failed Beer Hall Putsch, Emil Maurice and Adolf Hitler refounded the Stabswache as the Stosstrupp Adolf Hitler which was renamed, later that year, as the Schutzstaffel (SS)."

I guess no one could receive one since no one could have served for 25 years.

Regards
mathiass

[vonStubben]

[QUOTE=mathiass;8234672]Question 2.

"1925, two years after the failed Beer Hall Putsch, Emil Maurice and Adolf Hitler refounded the Stabswache as the Stosstrupp Adolf Hitler which was renamed, later that year, as the Schutzstaffel (SS)."

I guess no one could receive one since no one could have served for 25 years.

Regards
mathiass[/QUOT


My thoughts exactly. Thank you.

[vonStubben]

Lothar Debes filled both positions in Finland and Italy, however he only reached the rank of Gruppenfuhrer, and was a Brigadefuhrer in Finland.
Obergruppenfuhrers will have no doubt frequented these countries in an Inspectorate capacity.

Thank you.

[Ludwig]

Some years counted as double. The years before Machtübernahme, I guess.
But 25 years is still doubtful, IMO.
Himmler "only" got the 12 years medal, as have been mentioned here.

[mathiass]

Some years counted as double. The years before Machtübernahme, I guess.
But 25 years is still doubtful, IMO.
Himmler "only" got the 12 years medal, as have been mentioned here.

If that would be the case, then I assume that at least Emil Maurice should've had received one. According to wikipedia, this is his awards.

Coburg Badge, October 1932
Golden Party Badge, 1933
Blood Order 1933
SS-Ehrenring, 1933
SS-Ehrendegen, 1933
The Honour Cross of the World War 1914/1918 with Swords, August 1934
Anschluss Medal, 1938
Sudetenland Medal, 1939
Honour Chevron for the Old Guard, February 1934
Goldene Ehrennadel des Handwerks
SS Ehrendolch (SS honor dagger)
War Merit Cross without swords
Nazi Party Long Service Award in Bronze, Silver and Gold

Regards
mathiass

[Ludwig]

Wikipedia is not a 100 % reliable source. IMO.