SS Sleeve Eagle

[tystgaard]

Hello Forum

Is this a accepted Eagle variant?

Thanks
Nicolai

[tystgaard]

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[tystgaard]

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[chahler]

Reproduction ss sleeve eagle

[Stossgruppe3]

No . .
It's rubbish from the eighties
Regards David

[Ian Hulley]

No . .
It's rubbish from the eighties
Regards David

Yes, a little bit earlier but still rubbish ... it's even shown as a line drawing in the Bender U,O & H of the Waffen-SS volume 1 as an original



Ian

[tystgaard]

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Published in 1971- so this variant most
have been made sometime before that.

Where there even produced fake cloth
insignia back then? - presume 1960s?

BR
Nicolai

[Ian Hulley]

Published in 1971- so this variant most
have been made sometime before that.

Where there even produced fake cloth
insignia back then? - presume 1960s?

Yes, but fakes were ugly (like the subject piece) and no-where near as dangerous as the modern computer-scanned versions you guys have to contend with today. Trouble is there wasn't the internet and information sharing to the same degree.

Ian

[tystgaard]

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[Stossgruppe3]

Thanks
Published in 1971- so this variant most
have been made sometime before that.
Where there even produced fake cloth
insignia back then? - presume 1960s?
BR
Nicolai

Its not a variant either . . . Its a fake of another eagle
which I personally believe is a bevo eagle but on wool / no
Regards David

[Winkelman]

From the same period and possibly the same maker , this is another embroidered attempt at what should be a BeVo insignia ;

[coogan]

From the same period and possibly the same maker , this is another embroidered attempt at what should be a BeVo insignia ;

Can you define this statement for me ? I'm not sure about embroidered vs bevo the way you said it.

[Winkelman]

BeVo = thread going in lines through very thin cloth on a weaving machine . Insignia always come out on a strip and are 100% identical .

Machine embroidery = thread is stitched through ( normally wool ) cloth with a needle on an industrial sewing machine .

Third method = hand embroidery , needle & thread done individually by craftsmen .

Hope this helps ..

[coogan]

Thankyou, are the machines themselves for bevo and embroidery different , or just the material ?

[Winkelman]

Totally different manufacturing techniques , done by different machines ..