Deschler skull

[John T]

Lammy

It is not a ground dug piece with replaced pins. Look at the color of the skull and then the color of the metal that holds in the pins. If they were replaced pins the solder would be a different shade of metal color than that of the skull metal. The pins were produced into the skull at the point of making it. I have not seen any skull by this maker with this sort of reverse set up. As the others have noted it is not original. You to at times take a moment and study these items and apply some logic. Pitting can arise from an item being ground dug, yes but those types of pits tend to be random and odd shaped and huge/small combined give a certain look if you have studied enough, and will also show remains of powdering if the item has not been cleaned. The other guys do not perhaps want to go into long details because they have been asked the same good/bad questions many times and it gets repetitive.

[lammy]

Now that was the explenation i wanted.! Thank you.


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[coogan]

Yeah, I wasn't out to make you feel bad about your purchase , I wish we could all get a good deal on an authentic skull. Can you return it ?

[lammy]

Though under an eye piece, the colour difference is obvious. ! Two different metals, the solder is more pale.
Only, the item has been cleaned .!
By me.! I
I was looking for obvious mounts for original pins. Anyway it was cleaned before i got it. The only other way is to remove the solder.! Then see whats underneath.


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[lammy]

In case you have not understood my answer.

The weight you give the piece is enough proof to discard it.

Again fake

I hope you have not invested much money in this copy.

The extra weight could be in copper.?!


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[lammy]

I have had items of interest before, that had been years neglected in jars with coins rocks and bits of shell.


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[lammy]

Have just recieved 10 ground dug zündschnuranzünder . Made of a very similar material. Either way they are even faking the materials.


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[SScollector]

The problem with the weight is that it is not heavy enough, (especially for a zinc piece). If it were an original, it would have to be made of zinc to have that style of markings, and to also have that zinc style pitting if it were ground dug, (even though we know that it is actually cast pitting instead).

Anyway, the average weight for an early CupAl or Tombac Deschler skull is around 2.4-2.8 grams. Zinc skulls are of course a good bit heavier than that.
So, there's no telling what yours is actually made of, but it is obviously made of a very light metal and it appears to be very thin in some areas from the pictures.

Bottom line, nothing is correct on this one. Sorry for your bad luck, and I too hope that you can get a refund, but if not, then this will be one lesson paid for, as some of us collectors say when this happens.
We are always willing to help collectors here, so please consider trying to post any future items that you are interested in here for evaluation before you buy.
Then, you can be sure and buy with confidence.

Better luck next time!

Chris