Vidqun Quisling:
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As I mentioned before, the consensus appears to be the Norwegian SS formation never did bullion ravens. That said, It was suggested to me that the subject bird may well have been “associated with higher ranks of Quisling Hird personnel”. Knowing nothing of the Hird or Norwegian Hirden I Googled and assume it’s a reference to the Norwegian equivalent of the SA. Knowing nothing on this subject I’m guessing there was a difference ‘government’ related uniforms/insignia and the SS formation just as there were differences in the Reich. I would like to learn more on this if one of our Norse colleagues could expand on this.
Also, for my own edification, I note the Quisling bird on the cap photo kindly linked by Christian as with many of the metal birds one sees, the circle behind the cross is red. However, I note on some insignia Marius posted, such as Minister Rolf Fuglessang’s visor, and the insignia for the "Førergarden" here: http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...=F%F8rergarden even the plate for their mess-hall here (http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...=F%F8rergarden) all appear to reflect their respective circle being black. Was a black background vs a red significant of something?
Thank you for chiming in. RickComment
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Hello Rick!
I will be away from home and my archive for 3+ weeks but when I return I will post some relevant photos
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You are right RickOriginally posted by Rick C View Post
And here you can see guys in Hird uniforms (kepi and jacket) being lead by Førergarden`s leader sveitfører Per Carlson. Stripes in trousers are white so they must be early FG:Comment
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I guess silver/white vs. black was used by Førergarden since this was Vidqun Quisling`s personal guards (sort of Leibstandarte Vidqun Quisling). Here you can see m43 officer’s collar tabs and patch for jacket arm:Comment
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Just as silver vs. black was a popular combination to ID elite in those days. Here Jonas Lie as GSSN leader:Comment
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Jonas Lie with `Norges SS`(office = 1941).
I think your raven is related to this, either GSSN or Norges SS:Originally posted by Rick C View PostLast edited by militaria.no; 01-31-2018, 12:10 PM.Comment
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Red was together with yellow/golden/gold the NS colour (photo from member nsplakat samlerforumet.net):Originally posted by Rick C View PostComment
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And regarding the Hird (gold buttons) vs. SS I will show you something interesting.
This Hird jacket belonged to T. T. He was awarded EK II as Obersturmführer in Division Wiking, August 12th. 1941.Comment
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Obersturmführer in Division Wiking, August 12th. 1941.Comment
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Here T. T. is together with Vidkun Quisling:Comment
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February 12 th. 1942 they both went to Berlin to visit `another guy with his own Leibstandarte`. T. T. once told A. H. put his right hand on his left shoulder and gave him a compliment related to his EKII and Wiking service.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hesZ0Qn4nELast edited by militaria.no; 01-31-2018, 05:33 PM.Comment
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Very interesting story and items Marius, thanks for sharing.Comment
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Thank you Even though not directly related to this part of the forum it is higly relevant as many Norwegian hird members were awarded the Frontkjemper badge as members of Waffen-SS.
This is not T.T.`s personal badge (as none of his awards are known to exist) but loops for the FK badge can be found on the jacket:Comment
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His Hird armband:Comment
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