SS bevo camo eagle, opinions please?

[jlga]

Youre welcome man! I simply try to help from getting burned.

Question 1: Are sleeve eagles known to exist in brown or green camo versions according to references?

Question 2: Where are the others?

Cheers
//Felix[/QUOTE]

Hi Felix, have a look at this thread

http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/ss-uni...eagles-102268/

[jlga]

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[jlga]

Have contacted Bob Hritz, surely he ll sort this out for us

[allmilcollector]

nice original eagle i too have a set it is factory cut and presewn for application. no they arent dyed you can tell by lifting the flaps and seeing the original color. in hand they are the same as the cap sets in color i am very happy to have them. i no of this set also sold here no one knows everything. its a shame they are only worth repro prices because of a couple of opinions

[jlga]

nice original eagle i too have a set it is factory cut and presewn for application. no they arent dyed you can tell by lifting the flaps and seeing the original color. in hand they are the same as the cap sets in color i am very happy to have them. i no of this set also sold here no one knows everything. its a shame they are only worth repro prices because of a couple of opinions

Thanks, could you please post pictures?

[Felix]

Youre welcome man! I simply try to help from getting burned.

Question 1: Are sleeve eagles known to exist in brown or green camo versions according to references?

Question 2: Where are the others?

Cheers
//Felix

Hi Felix, have a look at this thread, I know Ade from war relics and to me his knowledge is like a final word. You ll find it interesting.

http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/ss-uni...eagles-102268/[/QUOTE]

I wish you good luck... Certainly...

//Felix

P.s Have you even read the links you post? No offence but you might perhaps have misunderstood the subject...

D.s Please have faith in any one you like. I have simply given my opinion based on my knowledge. Its free for everyone to evaluate my knowledge and question that. However known facts remains the same until prof has come forward.

[Felix]

its a shame they are only worth repro prices because of a couple of opinions

Perhaps its because they are originals with a fake dye?

//Felix

[jlga]

P.s Have you even read the links you post? No offence but you might perhaps have misunderstood the subject...

Yes I have and out of my limited and modest understanding they are discussing about camo sleeve eagles?? Have deleted one of them, reckon the other one is ok

"there were no special sleeve eagles made for the camo uniform. Regulations only authorised the special stylised rank insignia (Made up of green bars and oakleaves on black rectangular backing) to be worn.

However, tropical issue light tan/brown eagles were produced. These were found in quantity at Dachau in 1945. Many of these have been shown on the forum. Some of these have found their way onto Erbsmuster camo jackets"

[billbert]

Had a direct vet Dachau sourced 4 pocket camo jacket and pants with factory applied eagle...the tropical pale yellow SS sleeve eagle...Billbert

[Felix]

P.s Have you even read the links you post? No offence but you might perhaps have misunderstood the subject...

Yes I have and out of my limited and modest understanding they are discussing about camo sleeve eagles??

Here is what Ade wrote and he is a good guy but perhaps not with expert knowledge:
"Hi Felix, some background info first. Brown and green subduded eagles and deathsheads were made for the camo field cap. These are incredibly rare items. A cap complete with these would sell for around $20,000. These are faked outright but some idiots have dyed conventional silver/grey thread originals to try and make them subduded versions! A Criminal act....Bob Hritz has shown an original on the forum.

Moving onto your original question: there were no special sleeve eagles made for the camo uniform. Regulations only authorised the special stylised rank insignia (Made up of green bars and oakleaves on black rectangular backing) to be worn.

However, tropical issue light tan/brown eagles were produced. These were found in quantity at Dachau in 1945. Many of these have been shown on the forum. Some of these have found their way onto Erbsmuster camo jackets.

Cheers, Ade. "

First he talks about cap eagles which I wrote about earlier. Thats not the question here. They are known.
Later he writes about sleeve eagles and that no special camo sleeve eagles were produced. His last words are about tropical light tan/brown sleeve eagles found in Dachau. Its true that many tropical tan versions has been shown but these are well known - but it is very questionable if these were ever sewn on to the erbstarn jackets. I think they were not. That topic has been covered in detail in the past. Normal grey eagles were however. His mixing up with light brown eagles is just a confusion and not true. He talks about the tropical tan sleeve eagles.

Btw the Felix he refers to is certainly not me...

//Felix

[jlga]

Meantime, if anybody has anything to add, would be highly appreciated

[Winkelman]

The exact same brown sleeve eagle shown before ( and a green one too ) ;

>> http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ighlight=brown

[jlga]

The exact same brown sleeve eagle shown before ( and a green one too ) ;

>> http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ighlight=brown

You are right, question is what do we make out of that?, mixed opinions either you like it or you hate it, look forward to hear abour Bob Hritz s opinion

[jimt]

fake sleeve eagle

Fake , no such thing, these eagles do not have any sheen left to them when dyed . Looking at original camo cap eagles / skulls you will see a shiny look always no matter how dirty the cap is .Nothing new here a old fakery debate with new players . Sorry.

[jlga]

Fake , no such thing, these eagles do not have any sheen left to them when dyed . Looking at original camo cap eagles / skulls you will see a shiny look always no matter how dirty the cap is .Nothing new here a old fakery debate with new players . Sorry.

Thanks, appreciate your comment still, despite the fact that you mention that is a fake, surprised that other collectors do like it, having said that, I will not buy it for obvious reasons