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    #16
    Originally posted by espenlaub View Post
    But seems it has been redone from a vertical tab, both sides on the backing has reattached wool
    Well spotted .. !

    The sides of a formerly vertical tab would not be wide enough to make it into a horizontal tab .

    So 2 tiny narrow strips of black cloth had to be sewn to the sides to make it just wide enough to fit onto that horizontal piece of buckram .
    ( the precious hand embroidery would now be saved from vertical to horizontal . )

    Complicated adjustments on vertical TK tabs to remove numbers are already well-known ,
    but this conversion from vertical to horizontal is the very first one I have ever seen .

    In our day and age perhaps a complicated procedure like this would seem too costly -

    but it would simply have been common sense at the time , when people did not throw away things without reason .

    And more importantly , this little detail for me is the ultimate proof of its authenticity .. !
    Last edited by Winkelman; 12-12-2016, 11:14 PM.

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      #17
      Back to the dance floor ;
      first both of you turn to the left .
      Then both , turn to the right ..
      ( pics by Lumsden / Beaver -
      did anyone ever find a picture of these facing each other ? )

      I have to add : horizontal ones ..
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      Last edited by Winkelman; 12-13-2016, 01:39 PM.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Winkelman View Post
        // did anyone ever find a picture of these facing each other ? //
        Almost always the double Totenkopf face the same direction. I know of only five period photographs of SS-TV men with actual "mirror" Totenkopf tabs facings in opposite directions. But there must be more.

        A quick Google search of these two men will show images of two of them, maybe the links will work:

        SS-Obersturmbannführer Max Seela

        SS Hauptsturmführer Horst Peiper

        Dr. Strangelove posted a brilliant image here of a SS Hauptsturmführer of SS-Heimwehr Danzig true mirror tabs. I searched for it here, couldn't find it.

        Oh, and yes, well spotted espenlaub on the added cloth. That makes the horizontal left-facing hand embroidered Totenkopf collar tab that started this thread an even more interesting example.

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          #19
          Yes , the Strangelove picture is absolutely great ,
          truely mirrored tabs = both are looking outward .
          But here also the tabs are vertical , not horizontal ..
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            #20
            Collar tabs , are you joking ?
            You want to have a closer look at our collar tabs .. ?!
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              #21
              Originally posted by Winkelman View Post
              Well spotted .. !

              The sides of a formerly vertical tab would not be wide enough to make it into a horizontal tab .

              So 2 tiny narrow strips of black cloth had to be sewn to the sides to make it just wide enough to fit onto that horizontal piece of buckram .
              ( the precious hand embroidery would now be saved from vertical to horizontal . )

              Complicated adjustments on vertical TK tabs to remove numbers are already well-known ,
              but this conversion from vertical to horizontal is the very first one I have ever seen .

              In our day and age perhaps a complicated procedure like this would seem too costly -

              but it would simply have been common sense at the time , when people did not throw away things without reason .

              And more importantly , this little detail for me is the ultimate proof of its authenticity .. !
              I wondered why the tab seemed to have the 2 sewn in strips on the back and you guys cleared it up for me, thank you! I find the subject of TK tabs to be very interesting, and this thread confirms some of my past research. I bought this tab to replace the right rear facing, horizontal TK tab I sold last year. Wish I never sold it but I wanted a uniform removed example which seems nearly impossible to find for sale. I'm very happy with this tab and like it even more now [hope I never have to sell it]. Cliff

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