Early ss skull opinions

[kyles bullets]

Could I get some quick opinions on this earlier ss skull? Seems like it has legitimate aging, but other then that I haven't a clue, since skulls aren't my area. Thank you!

[Funia]

For sure not orginal
Peter

[Tony & Kaiser]

For sure not orginal
Peter

Certainly not pre-1936 SS. It looks like an original WWII Heer 5th Kavalerie cap Totenkopf, which were dug up in thousands in Berlin a few years back. They are often passed off as SS which they are not.

[Dmv]

Fake! €10 at Chiney

[sgstandard]

Skull

IMO, Tony is correct - the famous "Berlin Hoarde".
These have been discussed ad infinitum, and are generally considered legit.
As for their purpose.......SS vs. Army Regimental...........the lack of detail compared to earlier traditional skulls suggests late mfg.....long after the SS stopped using them.
Based on all the info I've read, and the appearance...especially the prongs, I believe they're legit.
NOTE:
Before I even read this thread, I IMMEDIATELY knew that Funia would respond, and automatically label it as fake..... I was not disappointed.
He says the same thing about every early skull posted. In HIS mind, they're ALL FAKE.

[Funia]

Here is mine exactly same bought for 5$ or 6$ and aged by myself and posted many times by me Looks same as you called ,,famous Berlin Hoarde"
Sgstandard next year I will be in U.S.
If you wanted we made another ones in American soil.


Peter

[sgstandard]

Skulls

In fairness, I don't claim to be the definitive expert on these, so I can't GUARANTEE that every skull is legit, simply because there were so MANY different manufacturers and variations. But Funia says EVERY early skull posted is a fake, and I just don't believe that. Who ARE these people making all these early skulls that are all different?

[Funia]

Orginal ones Danziger skulls are more rare than some people think.
Fakes Danzger skulls are a glut on the markret this way the orginal ones are underestimated.
Personally I like some of first pattern skulls more than second pattern.
But it is a question of taste.
Peter

[Tony & Kaiser]

Orginal ones Danziger skulls are more rare than some people think.
Fakes Danzger skulls are a glut on the markret this way the orginal ones are underestimated.
Personally I like some of first pattern skulls more than second pattern.
But it is a question of taste.
Peter

Peter that Totenkopf you posted above, is indeed a very rare example. It was only worn on the issued Krätchen of Leib-Husaren Regt. Nr.1 or 2. Leib-Husaren-Regt. Königin Viktoria von Preußen Nr.2 (both from Danzig/Langfuhr) in the XVII Armee Korps until 1918.

Note how the left eye socket is egg-shaped, while the right eye is almost a half-circle, which is unique to this issued Leib-Husaren pattern. The Totenkopf was once silver but it has patinated to dark brown.

[Funia]

Peter that Totenkopf you posted above, is indeed a very rare example. It was only worn on the issued Krätchen of Leib-Husaren Regt. Nr.1 or 2. Leib-Husaren-Regt. Königin Viktoria von Preußen Nr.2 (both from Danzig/Langfuhr) in the XVII Armee Korps until 1918.

Note how the left eye socket is egg-shaped, while the right eye is almost a half-circle, which is unique to this issued Leib-Husaren pattern. The Totenkopf was once silver but it has patinated to dark brown.

Tony thanks for your comment.
I apreciate your knowledge about this skull and generally about Danziger skulls.
Not a lot of people have such knowledge.
Peter

[Badto666]

Another all 1 pattern skulls are fake except the one I found in the ground thread..

[Dmv]

In this case Funia is right, the skulls in post 1 and 6 are fakes.
Many people have gone wrong with these. Notice the fresh solder!
Again, these sell for around €10 at Chiney fair, Belgium and some other German fairs.
Original 1st pattern skulls are rarer then many think.

[Badto666]

In this case Funia is right, the skulls in post 1 and 6 are fakes.
Many people have gone wrong with these. Notice the fresh solder!
Again, these sell for around €10 at Chiney fair, Belgium and some other German fairs.
Original 1st pattern skulls are rarer then many think.

Yes I agree on this one when taking a closer look. 😉