Dachua Tab Good or Kaput ???

[Gary Wood]

The Delta tabs do look close...if a faker set his mind to it in 2005 he could probably produce perfect/near perfect repros.

John,
modern machines on the whole nowadays use polyester or polycotton(hence why a lot of fakes will melt) you could use cotton or even rayon , but one of the big give-aways is the back thread, while they have large spools for the front thread the spool for the back thread is the same size as the ones you get in normal sewing machines, so this thread is a 3rd of the size of front threads and is always 100% polyester or nylon,
cheers,
Gary
notice the thread on the front of the delta tab above, this is one of there give-aways, the backing material is also another and something no matter how these tabs are fooled with can be changed

[John T]

John you are right! But it will soon come if not already here that the tab would be taken apart to inspect the back, which is key if the repros get better, something like authienticating a chip and dale chair

Michael: They can probably get the wool backing and the cotton thread 100 percent correct...the only problem part they would have would be to imitate the buckram backing and the glossy/sticky material on the buckram..

[MGN]

John,
Yes, also talking about the stiching (weave pattern etc) on the back of the tab. Should of made myself a bit more clear.

Michael

[John T]

John,
modern machines on the whole nowadays use polyester or polycotton(hence why a lot of fakes will melt) you could use cotton or even rayon , but one of the big give-aways is the back thread, while they have large spools for the front thread the spool for the back thread is the same size as the ones you get in normal sewing machines, so this thread is a 3rd of the size of front threads and is always 100% polyester or nylon,
cheers,
Gary
notice the thread on the front of the delta tab above, this is one of there give-aways, the backing material is also another and something no matter how these tabs are fooled with can be changed

Hi Gary, you have some very good points..I posted my response while you were still typing yours....the study of these tabs is indeed a science.

[Gary Wood]

Michael: They can probably get the wool backing and the cotton thread 100 percent correct...

John,
originals tabs are embroidered with Rayon not cotton, and while both these threads are made from the same raw material cellulose they are completely different fibres when processed, delta tabs used cotton, rayon has a lustre, cotton does not although there is a slight lustre to mercerised cotton
cheers,
Gary

[John T]

John,
originals tabs are embroidered with Rayon not cotton, and while both these threads are made from the same raw material cellulose they are completely different fibres when processed, delta tabs used cotton, rayon has a lustre, cotton does not although there is a slight lustre to mercerised cotton
cheers,
Gary

Hi Gary: That is interesting. Here is one that I think is a Delta tab..and made from cotton as you mentioned:

What do you think about it? Is it a Delta? It is cruder than one I have that I am sure is real.

[John T]

Reverse

[Gary Wood]

John,
here is an original one below,

[Gary Wood]

here are some back of original FV tabs

[Gary Wood]

here are some delta tabs

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delta backs

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[John T]

Hi Gary:


Thanks for those pictures. I will dig out a few FV tabs and post pix, John