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    #1

    SS Honor Ring Schmutzler opinions please

    Hi guys,
    i need your opinions about this Honor Ring of Obersturmführer Heinrich Schmutzler.
    Everything ok with it?
    Dont know if it is allowed to post this link. Soory if not.

    http://www.the-saleroom.com/en-us/au...1-a5df01058a12


    You can also see the ring at Graig Gottliebs Hompage.
    There the ring seems to be a little bit yellow.
    Now it looks like somebody cleaned it, because the yellow patina is gone.


    Thanks
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    Originally posted by Christian76 View Post
    Hi guys,
    i need your opinions about this Honor Ring of Obersturmführer Heinrich Schmutzler.
    Everything ok with it?
    Dont know if it is allowed to post this link. Soory if not.

    http://www.the-saleroom.com/en-us/au...1-a5df01058a12


    You can also see the ring at Graig Gottliebs Hompage.
    There the ring seems to be a little bit yellow.
    Now it looks like somebody cleaned it, because the yellow patina is gone.


    Thanks
    Hello Christian,

    does the ring come with Don CoA about originality ? I would bet it does not......

    Ric

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      #3
      Hi Ric,

      no it doesn't come with an CoA.
      Why you bet not ?
      Because the ring is a re issue?




      Chris
      Last edited by Christian76; 04-26-2016, 03:16 AM.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Christian76 View Post
        Hi Ric,

        no it doesn't come with an CoA.
        Why you bet not ?
        Because the ring is a re issue?


        Chris
        For now I only suggest to anyone planning to buy that ring to obtain Don's CoA before deal closing with auction house.

        Ric

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          #5
          I would pass.

          Matt
          Last edited by MP41; 04-26-2016, 03:47 AM.

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            #6
            Originally posted by MP41 View Post
            IMO

            Matt
            The reasons why ?

            Ric

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              #7
              Originally posted by MP41 View Post
              I would pass.

              Matt
              Again....why ?

              Ric

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                #8
                Originally posted by Ric Ferrari View Post
                Hello Christian,

                does the ring come with Don CoA about originality ? I would bet it does not......

                Ric
                Same reason as you.

                Matt

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by MP41 View Post
                  Same reason as you.

                  Matt
                  Do you know my suggestion reasons ? I strongly believe you don't.....

                  Ric

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                    #10
                    Crap, deal is closing tomorrow, no chance to get an CoA from Don in this short time.
                    Whats your reasons Ric?

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Christian76 View Post
                      Crap, deal is closing tomorrow, no chance to get an CoA from Don in this short time.
                      Whats your reasons Ric?
                      Chris,

                      do not worry about it.

                      If you will be the winning bidder, you just need to ship the ring (along with box) to Don, waiting for his blessing.

                      In the case he will certify the ring is a repro, you return it to auction house along with a copy of Don's certification to justify your decision.


                      Of course Don's CoA fees will probably remain on your side

                      Ric
                      Last edited by Ric Ferrari; 04-26-2016, 04:32 AM.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Ric Ferrari View Post
                        Chris,

                        do not worry about it.

                        If you will be the winning bidder, you just need to ship the ring (along with box) to Don, waiting for his blessing.

                        In the case he will certify the ring is a repro, you return it to auction house along with a copy of Don's certification to justify your decision.


                        Of course Don's CoA fees will probably remain on your side

                        Ric
                        P.S. I had to do the same in the past with a super repro coming from another well known german auction house.

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                          #13
                          Thank you Ric for your help/opinion.
                          Maybe it's better to wait for another chance to get a honor ring.
                          Not a good feeling on this one.
                          The best will be to get one here in my country( so i can pick it up personally) from a collector, possibly even with a CoA of Don.


                          So if somebody knows somebody, let me know
                          Also searching for an Honor Ring Award Certificate.


                          Chris

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Christian76 View Post
                            Hi guys,
                            i need your opinions about this Honor Ring of Obersturmführer Heinrich Schmutzler.
                            Everything ok with it?
                            Dont know if it is allowed to post this link. Soory if not.

                            http://www.the-saleroom.com/en-us/au...1-a5df01058a12


                            You can also see the ring at Graig Gottliebs Hompage.
                            There the ring seems to be a little bit yellow.
                            Now it looks like somebody cleaned it, because the yellow patina is gone.


                            Thanks

                            I do not see it on Gottliebs page, there are 10 rings in his archives section and 3 rings in his current section and this ring is not one of them. If you have the link to this ring on his website please post it so we can see it. Thank you.

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                              #15
                              Here is the Link:

                              http://www.craiggottlieb.com/engine/...otenkopf+Rings

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