RZM Cufftitle "Westpreussen"

[ww2.collector]

Today i get this RZM Cufftitle.
I know the 6 aluminiumwire cuff´s are hard discussed and not from all acepted, But it was quit cheap so i take it

But my question is, while i never see a Westpreussen cuff and can´t finde some infos about it.

for what was it used?

[ww2.collector]

It messurs 44,5 cm

[ww2.collector]

[ww2.collector]

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[ww2.collector]

and the Last two pic´s

[Michael73]

"But my question is, while i never see a Westpreussen cuff and can´t finde some infos about it.

for what was it used? "

It is used mainly to fool collectors I guess...

[krikke1980]

Imo a totally fantasie piece...

The fakers even didn't managed to make all the 's' the same way...

[leib1]

Imo a totally fantasie piece...

The fakers even didn't managed to make all the 's' the same way...

Or the E

[Ian Hulley]

Ironically the band weave looks very good.

Ian

[Felix]

As Ian correctly points out the black weave base it not bad at all. But it has six strands... Something to think about when it comes to the often debated topic of original six strand cuff titles. Its however easy when they are this BAD in the embroidered letters...

//Felix

[ww2.collector]

It is used mainly to fool collectors I guess...

If you fool collectors with a Band in this quality you will ask Money for it
As i write in post one it was cheap, better say I paid less than for a "fake" in this Quality and it was not sold as a ss cuff so.........

Imo a totally fantasie piece...

The fakers even didn't managed to make all the 's' the same way...

Especially in the area of Cufftitles are lots posibil, one reason are IMO that you can by in the RZM stores empty cufftitles and you can let them stich in what exist and some are in bad qulity i am shure.

i know the crazyest cufftitles stiched or embroided in empty cuffs (althought some with no SS related stuff in teh rzm-cuff) in some collection of freinds and the get their stuff for 99% from privat for no money and this stuff is unfortunatly not for sell.



But now to my primary qustion, for what is the "Westpreussen" used for, or did somone have anny informations or idears?
I write clearly in post 1 this that i know this cufftitles with the 6 strands are doubtfull, so i do not ask about the originality.

[C. Betz]

Cuff Title

Not only is your cuff title fake, there is no SS unit cuff title with the designation Westpreussen at all. See Angolia's Cloth Insignia of the SS.

Charles Betz

[viva_giulio]

99% of six wire have problems.... only very few ones were accepted.
This is a scary reason to considerate always.

[NickG]

Just throwing it out there! It's a long shot...
"SS-Truppenübungsplatz Westpreußen" staff ???

From Wikipedia...
Am 1. Juni 1944 wurde eine SS- und Waffen-Unterführerschule SS-Truppenübungsplatz „Westpreußen“ in Reckow bei Bütow auf dem Übungsplatz eingerichtet. Ab dem Sommer 1944 fanden auf dem Übungsplatz auch Versuche mit A4-Raketen (V2) bei Lindenbusch statt. Die Raketenversuchsgruppe war nach der Räumung des SS-Truppenübungsplatzes Heidelager in Südostpolen hierhin verlegt worden.

Am 2. Januar 1945 erfolgte die Räumung des SS-Truppenübungsplatzes Westpreußen aufgrund der Annäherung der Roten Armee. Gleichzeitig erfolgte auch die Einstellung des Lehrbetriebes und die Verlegung der nicht in den Einsatz gelangenden Schulangehörigen nach Dänemark.
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Approximate translation:
On the 1. June 1944 an SS and Waffen-Unterfuhrerschule SS troops (NCO) training course "West Prussia" was established in Reckow at Bütow and an exercise area was set up.
During the summer of 1944 tests with A4 (V2) rockets were held at Linde Busch. The Rocket Test Group followed SS military to this site when the Heidelager (SE Poland) training area
was relocated.

On 2. January 1945 the evacuation of the SS-military training area "West Prussia" took place due to the proximity of the Red Army. At that time training course school personnel
not ready for operations were evacuated to Denmark.
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So the W-SS "WestPreussen" training facility operated between June 1944 and January 1945...only approximately 6-7 months..Who knows? (private purchase unauthorized band?)
I know Dachau Truppen Ubungsplatz staff members had their own cuff titles but this is definitely a long shot!...late war and short period of time...Who knows?

[Robert H]

Nick, but it's still a fantasy piece.
I know you like exotic stuff ;-)