Disco, learn and study as many do it on such matters. Its childish to reaction on such manners with show and explain. For me there is nothing worth to explain as I have to know on my own for what its worth.
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mister I always learn and study and that is exactly why I asked as I don't believe to only what others say especially about these covers because no claims that these are fake have been supported by any one so farOriginally posted by Robert H View PostComment
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The original thread clearly demonstrated the double needle stitching on originals compared (side by side) to the simulation of double needles on this particular type as circulated apparently by Lorenzo.Originally posted by Disco Partisan View PostI am dying to see it
where? A link would help
Personally it is of no concern as I don't collect them and I mention it merely as a colleague trying to help you. I believe the thread was deleted as a (deliberately staged) slanging match ensued.
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Originally posted by Ian Hulley View Post
Disco ,
Again please grow up and read the threads about the covers.
I have clearly stated numerous times Lorenzos manufacturing methods compared to original methods.
I stated this at the beginning of this thread.
The BE and the 3-4 come from him.
They are the same.
You on the other hand have NOT stated WHY they are real on a side by side journey with known accepted originals.
You are only taking Lorenzos words on this.
As stated above the practice of mixing in bad items into a book so they will be accepted as real is an age long practice and I feel you are drunk with the love affair with the author after he slipped you a bone in the form of some type of a military deal and or future promised of an item.
The fact that you are not seeing the covers for what they are is worrisome and I personally feel sad for you.
Just step back for a few days...... Stop posting ............ read all the Lorenzo helmet threads, learn about real helmet covers and view the whole mess and swindle for what it is.
A faker got caught.
He made a lot of covers.
A lot of innocent collectors got burned.
It was a big blow to the community as he was well liked.
Typical greed took over.
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interestingOriginally posted by Ian Hulley View Post and what was the final consensus on double-stitching covers made using a single-stitching sewing machine? Are they all fake and there are no original covers with visible two lines of stitching made on a single-stitching machine? / Were all original covers with visible two lines of stitching made only using the two-line stitching machine?
I see the cover that started this thread is single-line stitching construction while plane tree posted by horsetrainer is double-stitching what looks like made using a single-stitching machine. Is it what makes it fake by previous consensus if any. Please talkComment
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First of all I would ask you to keep personal remarks to yourselfOriginally posted by kammo man View Post "grow up" OK?
Secondly I've read all threads about these covers so I am well prepared for discussion. Let's talk.
What you said in the beginning of the thread (quoted below) is nothing man seriously it is just some childish talk, too general and no supporting arguments nothing and No any comparison made to originals at all.
1. How is the sewing modern to you? It is not too tight or "deeped"/ it is laying on the surface just like on originalOriginally posted by kammo man View Post
2. What do mean by "The clips are new". If you meant they are in mint condition. I see The cover is mint so that's why the clips are mint.
3. I showed you The same lip is Beaver bookLast edited by Disco Partisan; 03-31-2016, 11:14 AM.Comment
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Disco,Originally posted by Disco Partisan View PostFirst of all I would ask you to keep personal remarks to yourself "grow up" OK?
Secondly I've read all threads about these covers so I am well prepared for discussion. Let's talk.
What you said in the beginning of the thread (quoted below) is nothing man seriously it is just some childish talk, too general and no supporting arguments nothing and No any comparison made to originals at all.
Live with your head in the sand.
Its your life.
Please tell us why Lorenzos fake covers are real.
I am waiting.
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because I see nothing is wrong with them and I see that you see nothing is wrong with them eitherOriginally posted by kammo man View Post
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What ?
Dear god that's meaningless.Comment
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I would like to make it clear to you that I have never got a single camo item from Lorenzo. I have never got any favor from him, like a price discount or anything material. I purchased for top-prices a few tunics from him in the past - always clearly stated by him as "Restored". I do not expect any favor from him in the future. I am just trying to be fair here and honestOriginally posted by kammo man View Post as much as I can because after previous dealings with him that is all I can do
P.S. He sold many items (that are now pictured in his books) long before the books came out and without even mentioning thay are going to be in his books.
Returning to plane tree covers construction .. I just reviewed pictures posted by horsetrainer and those two covers are made with two different types of machines : single-row-stitching and double-row-stitching. They are original covers wake up
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Disco ,
This is going nowhere with you.
I will stop now and let you live in your pink Lorenzo helmet cover type world.
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Ian ,Originally posted by Ian Hulley View Post
Should not be deleted maybe locked but not deleted.......who started the thread I will look for it
Cheers
Gary
Edit ...this is the previous thread
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=841522Comment
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BAX , how much did lorenzo nail you for, and any others who purchased lorenzo fakes? I wonder how much total he has abscounded with over the years selling his fakes?
So why would anyone ever buy his books since he is allegedly a flim flam man ?
If this is true We all should boycott him as a seller regardless , and not buy his books either.
Then is he allowed to be a member here if he's a crook? Food for thought.Comment
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He is no longer a member.
He got banned.
Look at the pages of his book on RZM.
It looks like there are fake covers shown.
We worked it out that he has peddled more than 50 covers over the years.
It is probably more.
If you include his other patching up jackets etc it really adds up to quite a lot.Comment
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Evening Gary, no, not that one ... it was maybe 2 or even 3 years ago, back when this first blew up.Originally posted by Gary Wood View Post
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