ss bullion eagle

[galizien41]

Is this eagle original by chance?

[11C]

Sorry...........terrible construction (legs different size, beak too large and off axis, feather isolated on left wing, no tinseling on entire eagle, top of wing edge not square at beak).........it's not even a good fake IMO.

[Stossgruppe3]

It's quite headious ...
A cross between a parrot and an eagle
I'm not convinced even though there seems to be a template there
Regards David

[galizien41]

Well that is disappointing news. Makes the entire tunic suspect then.
Thanks for your honest opinions. Saves aggregation later on.

[Stossgruppe3]

Well that is disappointing news. Makes the entire tunic suspect then.

No it doesnt ... why do you say that ?
That eagle looks as if it has been added as its sitting very high and therefore in my opinion
a replacement even though it may not be original to the tunic
Regards David

[galizien41]

Well if the eagle is fake, most likely the rest of the tunic could be restored also, no? If one removes the eagle, then the glaring large SS runes may be a cause for concern also if the insignia was removed during post war occupation. Just makes sense that that may happen.

No it doesnt ... why do you say that ?
That eagle looks as if it has been added as its sitting very high and therefore in my opinion
a replacement even though it may not be original to the tunic
Regards David

[Stossgruppe3]

Well if the eagle is fake, most likely the rest of the tunic could be restored also, no? If one removes the eagle, then the glaring large SS runes may be a cause for concern also if the insignia was removed during post war occupation. Just makes sense that that may happen.

I can see your point ...
Therefore can you show everyone more shots of the insignia in that case ?
Regards David

[Ian Hulley]

Hand embroidery (even using a template) leaves so much to the discretion of the embroiderer that unless it's absolutely 'textbook' there is scope for a wide variety of appearances.

Here, based on a single (although quite good) shot we are asked to express an opinion ... personally I agree that it is SO far from textbook that I would fear the worst BUT it needs to be viewed in the overall context of the piece it's sat on, along with any undisclosed provenance.

Ian

[galizien41]

I agree. Here is the entire tunic.

http://www.ratisbons.com/10th-Contem...887849961cd348

[galizien41]

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[galizien41]

although rather crude. Insignia seem original and on there a long time. IMO (eagle maybe replaced?)

[galizien41]

last ones. gives the basic Idea. More on the link.

[Ian Hulley]

Again just personally ... when I first saw that tunic on Klaus's web auction I felt the other insignia were all original but crudely (re)applied.

The eagle therefore doesn't condemn the whole as it is a sum of the parts anyway in my opinion.

Cheers, Ian.

[Stossgruppe3]

In my opinion the insignia (not the eagle) matches the condition of the tunic and therefore could be original to it ... The eagle is not of the same condition and has been tightly sewn so obviously replaced
Regards David