Private Purchase "SS" Officers Black Visor Cap

[cavguy]

Can you please give me your opinions on this cap? These are the only pics I have.

What I see;

1.Twisted white piping.
2.Bidirectional "wool" type construction of the cap.
3.Unknown maker, but from pics looks like a plastic diamond not cellulose.
4.Eagle looks original BUT, TK looks like a reproduction to me.
5.I have never seen a Multi-color sweatband on a wartime black visor.

[cavguy]

More pics;

[cavguy]

Additional pics;

[cavguy]

last one;

[viva_giulio]

Classic fake ss visor

[SScollector]

Has real insignia.

Chris

[Funia]

In my opinion eagle could be repainted.
Skull looks like orginal Deschler witch nice patina
Peter

[SScollector]

The eagle is aluminum.

Chris

[Funia]

Yes I see it But looks like painted .
I think old orginal Alu could be more shiny and has some discscolored artefacts.(ussualy yellow)
In my opinion many skulls posted here are repainted
I also have in my collection one Alu repainted Deschler skull dug.
Colour and surface looks same
But you know this is only detail in our disscusion
Peter
P.S Of course I see only not ideal foto of this eagle and this way I could be wrong

[cavguy]

Thanks all for the opinions! So consensus seem to indicate visor is Post War, as suspected. But insignia could be original.

[BaselA]

The cap itself is definitely not original

[SScollector]

I agree that the photos are not the best, but the insignia are original and i see no indication that the eagle has been refinished. This is my opinion. Anyway, the insignia would be worth around $1,600.00 - $1,800.00, and the visor, if indeed fake, probably no more than $50.00.


Chris

[PMan]

Visor

Before you through the visor in the trash can, be aware the it is made out of RZM approved black tricot. .... and as SS Collector has pointed out the eagle is a rare aluminum bird. Skull looks like a classic M1/52.

[cavguy]

The visor is not in my hands to do a hand on check. Also, not my visor. Check out the officers name on it though, is it properly written? Name / rank and apparently a date.

[Johnny R]

Probably supposed to be named to SS-Obersturmbannführer Josef Bäurle.