Originally posted by codytrcollector
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Actually I thought we were saying the same thing. Greatest respect for your opinion and thoughts Cody.
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Originally posted by Tony & Kaiser View PostActually I thought we were saying the same thing. Greatest respect for your opinion and thoughts Cody.
It has been a lonnnng week at work and it appears I must have misinterpreted what you were saying. I have seen your post in the past and have the upmost respect for you as well. Hope you have a wonderful weekend and happy collecting!Comment
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To quote Steve Irwin, "What a little beauty!" 
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Sorry I cannot, I am not the owner.Comment
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Bob Hritz brings up an interesting point about the thread versions. I have often wondered why the grey thread versions of these patches were made if the regulations were being followed and, after all, these were probably the most regulated of all SS insignia. In Eicke's own words: "der spiegel ist unter schaerfster Kontrolle" (the patch is most strictly controlled).
Sample sheets went back and forth from the SS-Hauptamt, Verwaltungsamt and the SS-TV for approval and were the subject of constant discussion and verification before being issued by the SS-VA to the Totenkopf supply officers.
In going back over some of these documents I believe I at least have an answer to why the badges were originally manufactured: the thread version did not originally indicate rank but which uniform it was worn on.
The March 1936 regulations introducing the revised insignia for the SS-TV stated that collar patches for all ranks were to be embroidered in aluminium.
The following month Pohl, the head of the Verwaltungsamt, noted Himmler had just ordered that insignia for the SS-VT earth grey uniform be issued in grey silk as the aluminium was too reflective in the sun. He asked the SS-Hauptamt if this should apply to the SS-TV.
This was agreed upon and that month Eicke confirmed, amongst other insignia clarifications, that all members of the SS-TV would now wear grey silk skull badges on their earth grey or earth brown tunics.
A man's black tunic would now sport an aluminium badge and his grey tunic would have a thread version of the same badge. Hence the existence of officers and lower rank versions of the "K" badges in both aluminium and thread.
I realise of course that this doesn't explain the wearing of the officers' pattern by NCOs in period photographs. But this is the subject of my next search.
DerekComment
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beauty
I when held that in hand such, dug out in Demyansk. the letter "k" on it was removed.Comment
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Here one with excellent embroidery.Comment
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