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    #31
    Originally posted by Johnny R View Post
    Nick- I am not going to waste my time trying to argue with you which I know will only lead to more misinformation, painful circular arguments and more bad drawings. Olana and other tan cloth used by the Italians was made in many different variations in the same way German field gray cloth does. When the cloth fades and is worn it loses the sheen. LW tropical overseas caps often are a good example of this.
    OK so it did lose its sheen. I have 3 Olona garments, 2 German + 1 italian...all identical fabric in feel and appearance...
    but if there are different variations...fine. I have never seen anything German ever custom made
    in what I would call traditional Olana before but you are the resident expert,
    so I will take your word for it.
    It should be a possibility.
    Last edited by NickG; 08-30-2015, 06:48 PM.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Michael Fay View Post
      Due to this being my first and only W SS tunic ,I am not qualified at this juncture to have a precise answer for you on the feel , much less ideas on tunic (other than those I received previously from seller and a trusted long time SS cloth collector)
      to my hand it is not "silky" but it is softer than I would have thought from looks alone. It is softer than say, new denim Levi pants.

      maybe this photo of the adler is close up enough to see the fabric better?
      The tunic in question is made from cotton gabardine. The ribbed angle of the weave is unmistakable. It is not Olona (note the correct spelling) which is an entirely different fabric that does not have a ribbed weave.

      CB

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        #33
        Regardless of what is was made from, it is a very nicely tailored piece that is definitely a one-off, tailor-made piece.

        I think the use of bullion and bright tress on such a field tunic is an interesting feature, and reminds us that their were cafes and restaurants in forward areas that would have required such a tunic.

        s/f Robert

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          #34
          A very nice Unterscharführer tunic Michael...

          I have been looking for a decent SS NCO tunic myself for some time.

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            #35
            wondering if it comes with provenance
            and how all can be so confident with just a few pictures

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              #36
              Originally posted by cbuehler View Post
              The tunic in question is made from cotton gabardine. The ribbed angle of the weave is unmistakable. It is not Olona (note the correct spelling) which is an entirely different fabric that does not have a ribbed weave.

              CB
              That's what I am seeing....Agreed! Not (traditional) Olona cloth!
              Here's my Standschutzen (Tyrolean Volkksturm) open neck uniform manufactured in traditional captured Italian "Olona" which lacks those ribs...as seen on Michael's
              nice SS NCO tunic. I have a few true Olonas! (replacement Standschutzen sleeve raute btw pinned over remnants of where once the original sat! ...which was factory applied)
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                #37
                This is a restored tunic of course

                I thought it was obvious-But to be perfectly clear I want everyone to know that this tunic was restored. It had no insignia and all that was left was the ghosts of SS tabs and specialty Raute/diamond.
                Further as I stated last night: seller thought it was early SS VT tunic which was later redone and saw Eastern front duty.
                This is what I was told by seller.
                I appreciate all the thoughts and ideas being brought up here, as it helps me to learn more and more about this tunic.
                Sincerely,
                Michael

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                  #38
                  People just read what they want. It is still a very nice tunic and great restoration.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by viva_giulio View Post
                    Very nice and particular
                    not to be a grammar nazi heehee butthe saying is"very nice IN particular."

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                      #40
                      No dagger slit

                      Originally posted by RobertE View Post
                      Very nice tailoring, the lines are all very exact. I like the minimalistic pocket flaps and five button features. It looks like it was made yesterday, but items in such condition can be found.

                      He went for bright tress and a bullion tab, but on a field material tunic with a regular white bevo bird. Does it have a dagger slit?

                      s/f Robert
                      Hello Robert,
                      I appreciate your interest.
                      There is no dagger slit. Does that mean anything pertinent ?
                      Thanks,
                      MF

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                        #41
                        M, if you need our help you need to post more pictures of this tunic both outside and inside including details, all materials used in construction close-ups, worn areas, etc
                        Perform the "burn test" of all threads used in this tunic.
                        Examine closely if the wear is authentic and natural.
                        Was the tress on the tunic or it has been restored too?
                        Who is the seller? (name)

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Disco Partisan View Post
                          M, if you need our help you need to post more pictures of this tunic both outside and inside including details, all materials used in construction close-ups, worn areas, etc
                          Perform the "burn test" of all threads used in this tunic.
                          Examine closely if the wear is authentic and natural.
                          Was the tress on the tunic or it has been restored too?
                          Who is the seller? (name)
                          Hello Disco Partizan,
                          as per your request:
                          I will post about 20 close up photos of tunic prior to restoration as this seems to be what is needed to be shown for you and everyone else.

                          As I stated before: everything was restored, this includes the addition of a tress to complete the Kavallerie look.
                          I invited the seller to comment and they may if it seems to become more of an issue.
                          Personally, I find that the "help" one may receive on WAF without a seller/name is sometimes more helpful than the later "help" after the social standing of the seller/dealer has been identified.

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