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    #46
    Alex,

    That exact style of TK tab ("pumkinhead") you posted above is shown in a period photo that you posted before:

    http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ad.php?t=70670

    Regards,
    Fred

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      #47
      Hello Jody !

      Please read my statement above the poster. I want ... but I don't

      I would be happy to know that Dacau insignia are real ... But I only believe in facts.

      I explained why I think so and why I do not like such stuff like volunteers collar patches, arm shields etc.... This is just my point of view

      Cheers,
      Alex

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        #48
        Originally posted by pimpf
        Hello Jody !

        Please read my statement above the poster. I want ... but I don't

        I would be happy to know that Dacau insignia are real ... But I only believe in facts.

        I explained why I think so and why I do not like such stuff like volunteers collar patches, arm shields etc.... This is just my point of view

        Cheers,
        Alex
        Hi Alex,
        Well that is your point of view and I can accept that, but it does look like you posted an image of the pumkinhead patch in wear. I guess that proves that my collar tab does exist.
        Regards,
        Jody

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          #49
          Fred, Jody !

          But are You sure that the tab at photo was produced in Dachau camp ??? Except this tab exists some others we have never seen at period photos.

          Cheers,
          Alex

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            #50
            Originally posted by pimpf
            Fred, Jody !

            But are You sure that the tab at photo was produced in Dachau camp ??? Except this tab exists some others we have never seen at period photos.

            Cheers,
            Alex
            Hi Alex,
            I guess my question to you is-can you prove that it wasn't produced in Dachau?
            Regards,
            Jody

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              #51
              Originally posted by Jody Beltram
              Hi Alex,
              I guess my question to you is-can you prove that it wasn't produced in Dachau?
              Regards,
              Jody
              Jody. I can't prove this. And can't be sure at 100% that it was produced there.That's why I prefer to stay away from Dachau stuff. Too many doubts about it.

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                #52
                Just out of interest how big were the ss war industries located at Auschwitz(now Oswiecim) compared to Dachau?

                Also did they produce insignia?

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by Robin Lumsden
                  Bob.
                  I agree with most of what you and everyone else has said. It's the collar tabs which I've still to be convinced about.
                  Robin-
                  I guess you have to take the word of many of us old time collectors who have had the opportunity to purchase these groupings directly from US military veterans. Without a doubt, unscrupulous individuals today are representing modern manufactured fake insignia as Dachau made. Only US troops wre allowed in to Dachau and that would explain the lack of this inisignia being located with veterans of the other Allied Forces. However, to deny what has been historically recorded as fact by many US collectors because of a lack of personal aquisition by a European collector from a non American veteran is not a valid arguement. What we see here is a mixing of two situations in to one. That being original period manufactured SS Dachau tabs and those manufactured more recently and represented as such. To deny the period existance of such material is to call all of the senior American collectors liars and scoundrals, of which I am neither.
                  Bob

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                    #54
                    To Robin Lumsden

                    You state "But I still do not think that all of the stuff currently being sold as 'Dachau badges' actually originated with the stuff that came back in 1945."

                    Can you show us some examples that you think this hypothesis applies to? DO NOT get me wrong I dont believe that everything sold as Dachua stuff is original.

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                      #55
                      To Pimp

                      You state "[In museums] They have no Dachau stuff in their collections. No one Dachau item was not found in Central Army Museum funds, no one came from Kransogorsk. I meant founds from late war battlefields in Germany and Netherlands. Not only in Russia. No one groun dug Dachau made collar patch or something from this source."

                      Collectors must understand that during this time the Waffen-SS was going through major changes in divisional levels. Must of these collar tabs were not even issued yet or to very small quantities. So it doesn't surprise us US collectors that these items are found in museums in Eastern Europe.

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                        #56
                        Can anyone here show me a "Dachau"-insignia that they got directly from a German Vet?


                        J for myself have never seen any!

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                          #57
                          The SS tag and the three pieces of camo didn't come from a vet. Edelweiss was in a photo album that the vet had same for one of the eagles.

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                            #58
                            I think there was a thread that showed a huge lot of items that came dirrectly from a vet. I cant seem to find it but it had a bunch of unissued Adolf Hitler BeVo cuff titles in a budle as well as the Albania shields.

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                              #59
                              Hello Michael !


                              Jm talking about german vets.

                              For instance the danish shields J have seen in danish vet collections are not the same type. Jm here talking about the german manufactured type, not the local danish produced type. Nor is the socalled "Dachau" Freikorps "DanmarK" ersatzkompagnie collar tab, sometimes offereed for high prices, the same as the few "original" surviving types.
                              By the way Jm not talking about cuffs , only Collar tabs and shields.
                              Jens
                              Last edited by Jens; 01-09-2005, 08:30 PM.

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                                #60
                                Jens,
                                I dont think too many veterans wanted to have nazi patches and insignia with them after the war

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