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    Black breeches 1940, SS?

    Hi everybody!
    I would like to ask for your help. I have those black breeches.
    Any opinions on what organization that one belonged to? Thanks in advance.
    Stewe







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      #3
      Breeches

      Look underneath the rear pockets on inside of breeches for RZM tag. That's where they usually are.

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        #4
        Wouldn't they be SS-VA marked ? They could be adult HJ or NSKK as well ?

        Ian

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          #5
          Unfortunately, there is no RZM tag. Has anyone ever met this maker?

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            #6
            Can anyone tell me something more about this breeches?
            Is it possible that it belonged to SS, because I saw breeches like this for sale as SS. For example (also with PRIMA buckle):
            http://www.germanmilitaria.com/Waffe...s/S032266.html

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              #7
              Most people call blk breeches SS breeches to make some more money out from it.
              Chances are low as many other branches got such pants. Textbook SS breeches where you be 100% they are from the SS should be VA or with RZM tagged marked. Or you got them directly from the vet...

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                #8
                Hope I am wrong and the date stamp is real but these breeches might be early DDR Volkpolizei....VPS stamp might be an indicator...from the late 40's...
                VPS = Volkspolizei Schulen...
                More here:

                http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ght=VPS&page=7

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                  #9
                  Not only the stamp indicates that it is from the war period, but also the word "PRIMA" on the buckle and the style (printing type) of its letters, wich was used in 1940. That is why, I think it does not belong to Volkspolizei Schulen.

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                    #10
                    So possibly War time after all and perhaps post war reissued is of course also a possibility,if it's VP (DDR use) related...
                    and war time hardware like buckles etc could have been used post war as well...! ...
                    either way it's not Alg.SS (RZM) issue.

                    https://books.google.com/books?id=DI...%20VPS&f=false


                    (VPS link)



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                    Last edited by NickG; 05-08-2015, 12:39 PM.

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                      Originally posted by Stewe View Post
                      Not only the stamp indicates that it is from the war period, but also the word "PRIMA" on the buckle and the style (printing type) of its letters, wich was used in 1940. That is why, I think it does not belong to Volkspolizei Schulen.

                      "PRIMA" on post-war trousers example

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                        #12
                        Side pockets on SS pants have button closure

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                          #13
                          Thank you guys. I want to keep it for myself but it is important for me to know its value. By the way this breeches were found in a small village near Chernigov in Ukraine.

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                            Originally posted by Stewe View Post
                            Thank you guys. I want to keep it for myself but it is important for me to know its value. By the way this breeches were found in a small village near Chernigov in Ukraine.
                            If it was found in the Ukraine it might be Schuma used.
                            Strange property stamps still...

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