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    Ss brownshirt at Grenadier

    You guys see teh Ss motor brownshirt over at Grenadier? any thoughts?wonder how hard it would be to get the extra leather buttons.. the metal cuff buttons,should they also be leather cant remember.. http://web.iwebcenters.com/grenadier...tem185027.ctlg
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    Would these work?
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      those are from BDM shirt right? SS ones are black i believe,but I guess they could be dyed.. SS ones I dont think are readily found that often..

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        Originally posted by wewelsburg View Post
        those are from BDM shirt right? SS ones are black i believe,but I guess they could be dyed.. SS ones I dont think are readily found that often..
        I have no idea what they are from, I picked a load of leather ones and some bakelite buttons.
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          It would have been worn with a neck tie, so for display I think it would be fine with dyed BDM buttons.
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            #6
            Hello people,

            I don't like it.

            regards,
            Klaas

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              SS Shirt

              SS brownshirts are exceedingly rare, so any example should be approached with extreme caution. This is not a reflection on the seller, but it is not a shirt I would buy. The collar piping looks original, and the shoulderboard is original, but IMO, there's a good chance the shoulderboard (and maybe the shirt) is actually SA. I would expect to see an SS cuff title, and also a Driver Qualification sleeve badge, worn by almost all Motor personnel. Unit collar tab doesn't appear to match the wear exhibited in the shirt.

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                Originally posted by Klaas B. View Post
                Hello people,

                I don't like it.

                regards,
                Klaas
                Because of what? Ellaborate with specifics why.

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                  Originally posted by wewelsburg View Post
                  You guys see teh Ss motor brownshirt over at Grenadier? any thoughts?wonder how hard it would be to get the extra leather buttons.. the metal cuff buttons,should they also be leather cant remember.. http://web.iwebcenters.com/grenadier...tem185027.ctlg
                  Shold not the collar patches be piped in either white or black/silver?

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                    Shirt

                    Yes - there was an early period where the SS enlisted tabs were piped in white, but I don't know for how long. I think this was likely an SA shirt.

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                      Originally posted by sgstandard View Post
                      SS brownshirts are exceedingly rare, so any example should be approached with extreme caution. This is not a reflection on the seller, but it is not a shirt I would buy. The collar piping looks original, and the shoulderboard is original, but IMO, there's a good chance the shoulderboard (and maybe the shirt) is actually SA. I would expect to see an SS cuff title, and also a Driver Qualification sleeve badge, worn by almost all Motor personnel. Unit collar tab doesn't appear to match the wear exhibited in the shirt.

                      Just a thought, if the piece should be approached with extreme caution, why should it not in some way be a reflection on the seller? I would approach many things on this site with extreme caution. Good items are to be found there for sure, but IMO the number of highly questionable ones and out right repros cannot be overlooked, and throws suspicion to me on anything offered. I give sellers the benefit of the doubt on extremely rare items, the item may just not be within their knowledge base, but when I see quite common items that are bad, it should and does reflect on ANY seller be they a straight collector or dealer.

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                        This shirt has some supposed it provenance came from a old collection of a former US Army soldier stationed in Munich in the Korean War several other uniforms are currently on sale at same dealer all of which look fine and correct,..ALSO 3 known REAL shirts below NONE have cufftitle all 3 are legit and from members here!No cufftitle means little.see last 3 pics


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                          Originally posted by Stangell View Post
                          Shold not the collar patches be piped in either white or black/silver?
                          I think the brownshirt is the only place where numbered tabs actually CAN be worn without piping ..
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                            Two more pictures ;
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                              #15
                              Love the transitional period of visors with Brownshirts..

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