General's Tab

[RobertE]

I will reserve my judgment on this piece, and would like comments as to the originality of this tab. Thanks in advance.

regards, Robert

[RobertE]

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[C. Betz]

Tab

Reproduction.

Charles Betz

[RobertE]

Thanks, I agree.

regards, Robert

[Stossgruppe3]

Yes ....
Its a fake for me too
It lacks detail .... and sharpness
Those acorns don't look right either
Not over keen on the buckram too ....
Regards
David

[RobertE]

For me, it is the lack of arc on the leaves, missing lower crossbar in the three acorn structure at the bottom, and some material deviations. Thanks for weighing in.

s/f Robert

[Ian Hulley]

For me, it is the lack of arc on the leaves, missing lower crossbar in the three acorn structure at the bottom, and some material deviations.

Me too

However given the nature of hand embroidery I wouldn't be THAT surprised if it turned out to be real. Not for me though.

Ian

[Stossgruppe3]

Robert ....
May I ask why you are asking ?
Is this tab available and on the market to buy ?
Regards
David

[Disco Partisan]

The Marshal's Baton website explains in great details and shows examples of all types of authentic ss generals tabs. After reading the material it becomes immediately obvious that the shown tabs here are just a poor attempt. I highly suggest that article to anyone who is interested in this subject.

[RobertE]

Yes, that is a decent reference, among others. There are many other original senior officer SS collar tabs that are not constructed exactly like the examples he has shown, though this collar tab is not among them IMO.

s/f Robert

[cbuehler]

One of the problems with some of these tabs is that while the embroiderery is poor, rough handling over the years can sometimes distort the embroidery, making it look worse than it may have originally. Often the rest of the tab is perfectly good with regard to materials and construction.
Also, we do not know if some of these tabs were actually TR period made or not. Some may possibly be makers rejects or practice pieces by new embroiderers that remained in the shop. Much material that remains today came did come out of tailors and embroiderers shops, and of course much of the basic materials that post war fakers used to make these items came from there as well.
I would expect General Officer tabs to be of fairly consistent high quality, but this may not always be the case.
While I also think that the tab in question here is probably fake, one must be very careful when it comes to bullion embroidery.

CB

[Disco Partisan]

Of course, original hand-embroidery vary from tab to tab (by definition) but at the same time is always consistent, if you look at this picture (all original) for hour-two you will nail a fake on fly

[cbuehler]

Of course, original hand-embroidery vary from tab to tab (by definition) but at the same time is always consistent, if you look at this picture (all original) for hour-two you will nail a fake on fly

Fantastic display here! I do note that the acorns on the originals are considerably different from most fakes.

CB

[istra63]

The original post (1) is definitely a fake as aforementioned.
I also draw attention to what cbeuhler descibes as boundary tabs.
Attention to detail will inadvertedly expose alot of reproduction
pieces for what they are