matched LAH Officer's shoulder board cyphers

[all1knew]

Hello all,

To me, these do not appear to be of the drilled variety. These appear to be cupal. Are there authentic examples with all of the areas cut out like these?

William Kramer

[all1knew]

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[all1knew]

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[tgn]

Compare and decide for yourself.

Tom

[markus]

All cyphers shown are bad IMO.

[all1knew]

well I see yours is filled in on the left there, so that goes back to my question. Are there authentic examples with all of the areas cut out?

William Kramer

[tgn]

That is a valid question. The "big" collectors believe there is only one original type, like the one I showed. Who am I to argue with them?

Tom

[all1knew]

All bad.

Are the areas that I have circled here casting flaws?

William Kramer

[SJP]

Details

William, If Tom showed the back you would see
Cheers Steve

[tgn]

Am happy to show the back if that helps William.

Tom

[markus]

Just posted a nice repro cypher for training purposes or decoration on the EStand:

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=785132


Cheers,
Markus

[Disco Partisan]

That is a valid question. The "big" collectors believe there is only one original type, like the one I showed. Who am I to argue with them?

Tom

nice cypher you posted Tom, below is the same type NCO(found on the net)



talking about "big" collectors and "there is only one original type" below is an NCO cypher from B.Hritz collection and an officers cypher from an old european collection, they are identical to each other but different type from yours



another type (third) ex Bill Shea



one more type (forth) ground-dug and published in a highly-praised Russian book

[markus]

The fourth one from the highly praised Russian book and supposedly 'ground-dug' is definitely fake. I got this type for sale on the Estand right now (as a repro/fake). Stephen Wolfe gave it to me last summer at his home (as an example for a fake).

Cheers,
Markus

[rob NL]

The fourth one from the highly praised Russian book and supposedly 'ground-dug' is definitely fake. I got this type for sale on the Estand right now (as a repro/fake). Stephen Wolfe gave it to me last summer at his home (as an example for a fake).

Cheers,
Markus

Are you selling something that was given to you???

[markus]

Are you selling something that was given to you???

Sure...nothing's for free and I guess somewhere down the line I kinda paid for it anyway...